Check out WGN’s story about an executive board member at the Chicago Teachers Union.
“As recently as Thursday,” according to WGN, Sarah Chambers “tweeted to rally special education teachers not to return to work Monday because it’s unsafe. Just a few hours earlier, Chambers posted a picture on Instagram that appears to show her pool side in Puerto Rico and talking about going to Old San Juan for seafood.”
According to WGN, the post also mentions she previously had COVID, got a negative test result and consulted her doctor before traveling.
Chambers, you may remember, was part of that solidarity mission last year by CTU members to communist Venezuela we wrote about.
At the time, she said on Twitter that “The USA does not want people to realize that another world is possible with justice and love.” Chambers also wrote on Twitter that the delegation hadn’t seen a single homeless person during their trip. No mention that housing might be plentiful because over three million people have fled – about 10% of the population.
In 2017, the school district fired her for, as reported by WTTW,
“leaving her own classroom to barge into classrooms of other teachers and issue her own instructions to students, interfering with statewide tests, and participating in a scheme to remove and transport students without any chaperone who had cleared criminal background checks, without alerting school officials which students would be missing from class and which students were unaccounted for….”
However, she claimed she was fired in retaliation for other matters and the CTU got her reinstated, the union says.
Props to Ben Bradley at WGN for catching this story.
We might have missed it because Sarah, as good communists tend to do, blocked us on Twitter long ago:
UPDATE: Even Russia’s state-controlled news service, RT, is now ridiculing Sarah.
-Mark Glennon
So, Im guessing that Ms. Chambers – loyal follower of all Lightfoot and Pritzker proclamations like a good and dutiful Democrat robot – will be quarantining herself for the next 21 days just like de Mayor and Governor says. Right? Will CPD be posted at the door to her home to ensure compliance? After all, CDC has proclaimed Puerto Rico to be a Wuhan Virus hot-spot like some sort of third world country. CDC Link is: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/covid-4/coronavirus-puerto-rico
Is that “Big Shot” or “Big S**T?
I am AMAZED that if you Look at the picture that has been WIDELY Circulated of her in a bathing suit laying at the pool in Puerto Rico shows her Left NIPPLE of Her BREAST Popping out of her Top.. Now mind you she is Attractive but as a Teacher of Young Impressionable Underage Children Showing part of your Breast is Not a Good Look for ANY Newspaper or publication and they can only Hope nobody saw the Larger View one can see on Google or some of the other publications. You can tell her top has Shifted and the… Read more »
Maybe Kramer was the photographer.
Agree Elaine was not to thrilled.
Did you just assume “her” gender?
If anyone wants to do research; I believe all school districts get money based upon attendance. So is the state just assuming every child is attending every day? that would be a windfall for schools and a correspondent screwing of taxpayers
No rumors, please, unless you have authentication.
Something weird is going on with comments on this post. An unusual number of downvotes occurring while the vast majority of the comments are the usual group. I suspect CTU members lurking and downvoting. Or the system is allowing the same person to downvote many times over.
Yup. When you have something that really stings the other side shows up with down votes. It started yesterday on this post and one below about Ted’s video appearance. The up votes were overwhelming, than a mob of down-voters appeared and cancelled them out. This post has been going crazy with pageviews and on social media, plus 125K pageviews on just one of its republications in ZeroHedge. You know you are over the target when you are taking flak.
Mark,i know im a little over the top sometimes but truly appreciate you and wire points for bringing some truth to the fore front,wont ever see this on the fake news main stream media
Well, you certainly aren’t being over the top on anything you might say about main stream media. In my opinion, that just might be the most frightening thing we face. It’s more of a problem with national media than in Illinois. So much of the national media, aided by big tech, is just outright dishonest and rigged. Never mind the alleged election fraud, it’s the national media and rigged tech platforms that unquestionably tipped countless races across the countriy to the left. They are terrifying.
Mark . Is it possible to have the number of up votes and down votes separate at the same time? So for any comment if 3 people up vote and 3 down vote it would not negate the up. It would show 3 green and 3 red. We would then know that some people agree and some disagree. Also it is possible to have Edit on our comments in case of misspelling or wrong info.
I will check on that.
Yea,i told teacher james he mustve called all of his cps nitwits,theyre the ones down voting,just ignore it like we ignore the cps teachers
Scroll down a little and youll see my back and forth with teacher james,pretty funny actually,im glad the cps teachers can see how the populace feels about them!
Well, at least James keeps coming back and puts up a discussion. Most of them just go on social media and throw out labels and insults, never putting up anything of substance.
“Most of them just go on social media and throw out labels and insults” What do you think most of your commenters on this site do? Look at those who provides rational opinions (even if they differ from yours) vs. those that just throw out name calling and insults. Seriously, how many times does someone think they are insightful pointing out JB is overweight or calling people wimps, twits, sociopaths, predators or thieves. Most teachers I’ve met are honest and hard working people. I get that the state owes a ton of money to pensions but bashing these people will… Read more »
Very few of those. Though the fat jokes are frequent and tiresome.
“Very few of those.”
I only need to go back in the last 30 minutes to find a poster that calls teachers “grifters” and “thieves”. Plenty of those Mark. No substance to these posters just more name calling.
In my opinion Wirepoints has a useful, positive mission, and its spokesmen stick to the facts of their argiments with little emotional embellishment. Bravo! The other side of that coin is that the anonymity given to those who are commenters brings that mission down to brawling at the same level as Twitter much of the time. People love the cloak of anonymity, and many will shed the norms of common decency in such media. It drives away those who would like serious, polite discourse and becomes a viscious mob event at times. Reasoned, polite discourse is boring to the general… Read more »
It does seem that any discussions about teachers and unions provoke a lot of vitriol. I think that we have all been guilty of snark in our comments at times (makes things more lively in my opinion), but like you I believe that discussions should be aimed at looking for solutions. Sometimes that will involve pointing out erroneous thinking by the opposition, but it shouldn’t need to get nasty.
The dam has cracked. Until recently, few would even criticize teachers’ unions out of fear of being called ungrateful for all teachers. Now, people are speaking up not just about unions but about how so many teachers have substituted political indoctrination for education.
My complaints refer prinarily to commenters who seem to delight far more in agitating and denigrating than wanting to discuss intelligently the immediate issue with the hope of some eventual agreement or at least reasonable understanding as to what should be done. Some Twitter-style commenters simply want to flay the person having a counter view of the issue at hand and likely life itself in a general sense. Whatever happened to the notion parents tried to instill in us that we still need to strive to be an agreeable person even while disageeing? That’s a lost goal in any conversation… Read more »
Despite the brawling, which we try to discourage, anonymous comments serve other important purposes. First, they are a check on what we write. If we make an error (which I’m proud to say has been rare) we get jumped on and we make a correction. I suspect that one reason the regular IL media dropped their comment sections is they got embarrassed by how often their errors were pointed out. Second, anonymity lets opinions be expressed despite the vindictive mob, which is vicious on the left. We hear often from our contributors and followers that they agree with us but… Read more »
Anonymity as a requirement here does have its reasons for being so, I realized it even when starting my inputs here and appreciate the positive side of it. In no way was I trying to say otherwise! Still, the whole concept has its set of downsides, too. They are a major reason verbal knife fights break out here somewhat repeatedly, and that’s what I was trying to emphasize. You are left to judge the overall value of this forum to your cause. The only thing I’d say there is that Wirepoints commenters almost exclusive have the same general beliefs, meaning… Read more »
James, I blame that entirely on the other side, which avoids honest debate wherever possible.
I have to say that your remarks here may be true for you, but I see it absolutely the opposite way as to who are the obstructionists in the public at large. There are numerous times I see commenters here saying essentially (all) Democrats are ….., …. and …… So, for example, If I’m a Democrat by definition AOC is my thought leader. Not so! I tilt left-of-center politically but not radically, so I am amenable to most slightly right-of-center arguments. The art of engaging any person in meaningful discourse requires one to be personally engaging. Few forays with “the… Read more »
“You and others can give up on “the enemy,” but if you want to win the war with us fence-sitters you have to truly engage the enemy.” While I don’t agree that people with different political leanings than myself are the enemy I agree 100% with your sentiment. As this site grows the comment section becomes every bit of the brand as the content that is provided. When “fence sitters” are drawn to this site and they see the hate and venom that is spewed at teachers or other public employees the site immediately gets labeled as far right rather… Read more »
I am absolultely in agreement. We want solutions to problems to be the focus here rather than the satisfaction of having verbally beaten the opposiont to a pulp through shame and intimidation whether real or implied. I have said repeatedly I am in favor of compromise where it benefit society generally. Unconditional surrender isn’t in my wheelhouse but reasonable compromise is.
Mark, Blaming everything on the other side also avoids honest debate. I have tried many times to point out that Illinois’ fiscal problems are the result of both Republicans and Democrats. Most of the commenters on this site don’t know and can’t handle that basic fact. They are unable or unwilling to engage in honest debate about these issues and instead want to cheer on the GOP like it’s their favorite football team. For the record, I agree that the “other side” is horrible at their ability to engage in fact based discussions. I just think plenty of people on… Read more »
“I have tried many times to point out that Illinois’ fiscal problems are the result of both Republicans and Democrats. Most of the commenters on this site don’t know and can’t handle that basic fact. ” This is incorrect. Everyone agrees both sides are responsible. But commenters here believe that you’ve assigned too much responsibility to Republicans. They’ve been the minority party for almost two generations with the occasional tenure in the governor’s mansion. To continuously harp on the Edgar Ramp, passed nearly 30 years ago, when Democrats have controlled both chambers of the legislature, is missing the forest for… Read more »
Republicans lit the house on fire and Democrats are watching it burn. Both sides are to blame. I don’t remember assigning a weighting to who holds more responsibility but with the financial difficulties caused by Thompson and Edgar it can’t be ignored. In fact many of my posts place blame squarely where it belongs, on the voters. The reason I point out Republican past failures to commenters because it’s relevant to the current fiscal problems of today. Contrary to your belief that “everyone” agrees both sides are responsible, many are not aware of the history. Republicans pushed for the Constitutional… Read more »
There is zero plans on both sides of the fence to fix Illinois the math behind it is incomprehensible.
Maybe Republicans started us on this race to financial destruction. But about 35 years ago the baton was passed to Madigan and the Democrats. They have been hurtling toward the finish line ever since. If you want to stop the baton from crossing that line, you don’t look back to the guy who started the race. You do everything you can to take down the guy who carries the baton now, and has run the last 3 legs. Republicans are the only viable alternative to the Democrats carrying the baton. It doesn’t mean I excuse Republicans, just that I think… Read more »
You are correct.
Republicans can carry between 40% to 50% of statewide voters depending on the election cycle. Unfortunately in the legislature they’ve been gerrymandered out of existence. Google Madigan 2010 map to see how influential the gerrymandering is. The maps are drawn so Democrats rarely lose but Republican incumbents are always facing pressure. Democrats do not have a supermajority of statewide voters but have gerrymandered the map to their favor.
Republicans typically carry between 38-43% of the statewide vote. Even the year Rauner won (50.8%) the Republican that ran for the Senate only received 43% of the vote. When you tend to only bring in around 40% of the votes you become irrelevant. No doubt that gerrymandering doesn’t help (moves majority to super majority) them but that is not the cause of their woes. Republicans only gathered 40% of the votes two months ago. Even if the maps weren’t gerrymandered in 2011 it would happen anyway this year. If Republicans don’t like the maps they are going to need to… Read more »
My real name is Oswego Willy. I reserve my creepy, repetitive comments for other websites.
One of the reasons i love wirepoints Mark is because its one of the few platforms that we conservatives can express our viewpoints without being censored,i.e. twitter ,facebook and other mainly left wing outlets.If anyone DARE give an opposing view point that the left wing libs disagree with they all start crying racism or completely censor and block the comments of conservatives.-thanx again!
Our belief in the power of markets includes the marketplace of ideas.
One way to describe the post about ‘denial of sevice’ to teachers is to frame it in an emotional way as you have done in your comment.
Another way would be to follow-up with honest discourse about how a tactic such as ‘denial of service’ threats (and to disabled children no less) are passively tolerated when the tactics are used for great personal profit by teachers,
But,
When members of society struggling to survive the brutal reign of teachers suggest using the very same tactic….you have a visceral negative repulsion for even discussing the topic.
Susan,
I think your idea is ludicrous more so than repulsive. Do you really think the medical profession can deny services to people they don’t like? Teachers are legally allowed to strike based on specific circumstances. If you believe that is the equivalent to holding the public hostage then why not propose solutions such as banning public sector strikes through legislation. Instead you propose a ridiculous proposal of denying services to political opponents. All this does is show your deep hatred for teachers rather than your desire for a real solution.
Illinois one of the few states where teachers can legally strike,more proof of the power that the unions have over our weak,feckless politicians!-Pritzker and Madigan….” yes mr union boss,i ll do whatever you say cuz im weak and only want money,i dont care about the populace of our state,just put that check in my bank account,mr union boss”.-pleeeease mr union boss
EVERYONE can see right thru this facade yet nothing ever gets done,i llinois is a train wreck waiting to happen,wont be long till theres a HUGE crash,thank u teachers and union for your greed!
Time for full out revolt, lock and load
Contrary to your personally emotionally palliative reframing of the argument which my posts present, your response underscores the need for your victims to look for self- defense techniques which might actually be effective.
As you and your globetrotter friend pictured above know, exploited taxpayers have as much chance for legislative relief as those children she encourages to be abandoned by your kind while you are guaranteed income by the aforementioned exploited taxpayers.
Your ridiculous proposal is: maintain status quo, keep up obfuscation of discussions so that alternatives of self defense are forbidden topics.
Or maybe some of the ideas were too much even for those of us who agree that union power is destroying our state.
Rick,
these teachers are just mad because they can’t force their opinion on you and then punish you with poor marks for disagreeing.
You must be referring to jesse snarkey,i mean sharkey,dude couldnt whoop a lil kid
Former CTU teacher, left and have never looked back. Oh, I’m still teaching, in a private school, and things could not be better. Parents are involved, teachers actually teach, and students are held accountable. No social promotion, no repeat discipline offenders, and administration is involved, without micro-managing, the teachers they trusted enough to hire.
This woman is a fraud and a communist and, next time she goes to Venezuela, she needs to stay and see how the country really works.
Sean, we are truly grateful for teachers like you.
GO Look at the picture in the Article of her Bikini top as her Left Nipple is half way out of the Top and even erect. Go to Google and even a enlargement of an additional 50% clearly shows it as her top has shifted on that side revealing More then she realized and Surprised Nobody has Noticed; or they are too embarrassed to make a correction or delete it now. Bit wonder if there is a liability issue or anyway lewd and lascivious as one can assume she didn’t look closely at the picture she published on her Instagram… Read more »
Sean, thank you for your service to our children and our future.
Sean, I don’t blame you for leaving and I commend you for your work as a teacher. I don’t have the patience for the job so I’m happy people like you do. Your comment also highlights the problem with large city schools such as CPS. Good teachers who expect children to be accountable and parents to be involved are able to actually teach. Almost 80% of CPS students fall under the poverty guidelines of free and reduced lunch. These are kids that can’t even get fed before school so that they are ready to learn. So the teachers that remain… Read more »
Lacy’s Law:
INCOMPETENCE + CORRUPTION =BANKRUPTCY
“The Problem with Socialism is that you will eventually run out of other people’s money.”
I was a member of the CTU and elected by the faculty at my school to the union house of delegates years ago. When Robert Healy left his post as president to head the Chicago Federation of Labor. He took a mid 4 figure amount from union coffers as severance pay. Jacqueline Vaughn also took a similar amount as she left the CTU vice presidency and assumed the presidency. When we questioned her about it at the house of delegates meeting, we were called racists. I quit over the summer and opened a franchise business. I’ve never regretted it. The… Read more »
Eugene, thanks. We need more former teachers speaking up like you.
Ah, Robert Healy. The dreaded 7% pension pick-up began under his watch. We also got Hudson vs CTU which forced better disclosure of union expenses for fair share fees.
https://casetext.com/case/hudson-v-chicago-teachers-union-local-no-1-2
I find it interesting that the teacher’s et al tout the “pension is a promise” yet at the same time a “lease is not a promise” in Illinois. Contracts in Illinois seems to have an assortment off meanings these days.
The CTU’s position is that minority children should be denied an education so rich white teachers can go on vacation
Great post that I will plagiarize in my public conversations with others : )
I have to wonder what’s going to happen to all of those kids who lost a whole year of instruction, and will probably never get it back. It reminds me of the scene in “Dr Zhivago” where Alec Guinness describes the young men that were recruited when war broke out–most of them were getting the first new boots they had ever owned. I don’t think CPS kids will be fighting wars but they are facing a less than promising future.
One thing for sure are politicians don’t give a damn it’s obvious the unions run Illinois.
Yeah, but are you 100% sure that picture wasn’t taken in Chicago? Those Palm trees, pool and blue skies could very well be Chicago in January. Then again, I don’t see dead murder victims and homeless in the background.
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Off topic, but I don’t have much to add to what has already been said. Since many regulars are here today, Happy New Year to all. I enjoy your insights and look forward to more of them in what is sure to be an interesting year ahead.
We are very lucky and grateful to have so many informed commenters here who have useful things to say (although there are a few who I wish would take it easy on the JB/fat lines). We almost never have to block or delete anything. So, thanks from Wirepoints!
The best thing about the CTU gang not showing up for months is the amount of child molestation complaints that happen in and out of the classroom by so called educators have decreased greatly. Hundreds of allegations have been swept into the closet by BofE administrators and any negative action taken against a CTU member is vigorously defended by the CTU. Their motto is send them back to the classroom, it’s for the children.
Huntley 158 union president and teacher went to Florida over Christmas Break and posted pictures to his personal Facebook page.
Most of these slobs have no shame
The odds that “non-partisan” Block Club Chicago picks up this story are between zero and none. Gotta think they’ll ignore this rather than risk their woke creds.
Anyone that lives in the city of Chicago is funding/enabling this.
Move out of the city. Or suffer the consequences.
Actually, all Illinoisans fund this. We are all now paying the normal cost element of the Chicago teachers’ pension.
We were always paying it. It was just wrapped into those blocks grants CPS used to get. Once in a while some of that grant money made its way into the Chicago Teachers Pension fund. Usually it didn’t.
Which is why I will be living in Indiana next week. No place in Illinois is safe from Communist Chicago
This woman actually was doubling down on Twitter. Any criticism she received (according to her) was from people with fewer than 100 followers who were hateful. She said she didn’t care and would just block them. This only fanned the flames so she has since deleted that tweet.
https://twitter.com/Sarah4Justice/
Surprised she didnt say they were being ” racist”-isnt that what the libs blame EVERYTHING on?!
She’s too late. It’s already gone viral. Ben Bradley’s tweet has already been retweeted nearly 16,000 times.
https://twitter.com/BenBradleyTV/status/1344810949996392448
Kudos to Ben Bradley for reporting this…
She drips of contempt for the un-washed masses…
I find it satisfyingly ironic that her own narcism & hubris caused all this…
Even more disgusting CTU Stacey Davis Gates received a 40,000 dollar pay raise, Absolutely disgusting.
$24,000 to be exact.
Thanks for the correction, still to much in my thinking
Stacey is the most radical of them all a total COMMINUST think CTU is radical now wait this one is President
And she is so arrogant and ignorant she thinks her sh-t don’t stink, her and sharkey will be behind ctu’s collapse.
I believe she also 2-times, maken big time taxpayer $bucks$ as vp @ Illinois Federation of Teachers (IFT)
I don’t think Stacey gets a 2nd check from IFT like Karen Lewis used to get. Not yet, at least.
Another fake/self-serve overpaid ctu radical on the taxpayers dime—I dont think she’s officially fired, because it’s next to impossible to fire anyone at cps. She’s just “suspended” and collecting her paycheck like 100eds of other ctu teachers waiting for outcomes of taxpayer funed ctu law suites..maybe she also collecting paycheck as well for being ctu board member?
Just like to take this opportunity to remind everyone here that the nursing, technical, custodial, food service personnel have been showing up for work at your hospitals and clinics 24/7 since this pandemic began. And they work in environments that are incalculably more risky than a CPS classroom. And if they get sick, after they recover they return to work to provide and support care for the communities they serve. The CTU and its members have earned the contempt of the citizenry by their cowardice and dissembling. But no one has earned as much contempt as the mayor who fears… Read more »
Amen. Well said.
Yup, dedication, merit recognition, pride, etc all matter to these fine people. But the minute they were to get unionized by a Marxist outfit like the CTU… You can bet they would be using extortion as well. The values I listed above are the first things a Marxist must take from the individual. Individual values rooted in culture are the enemy of the collective.
Isn’t there a moral rationale for medical professionals to deny, delay, or protest forced servitude to this class of sociopathic and predatory organisms?
It seems ironic that Illinois medical professionals are taxed at high rates to provide financial windfalls for this class of organism, AND are bound by law to work to extend QALY of these organisms…all while the depth of financial harm caused to Illinois medical professionals is directly correlated to the lifespan of these sociopathic and predatory organisms.
I think you’re in the wrong line of work. Every comment you make says that loud and clear. You’re clearly not a happy person.
And you clearly are happy. You suffer no conscience about the misery you have inflicted, and insist on continuing to inflict, on members of your community whom you demand serve you.
Also you lack an ability to see the irony of your own attitude.
Hey susan,just ignore teacher james,hes probably in jamaica right now waiting for his next “free” check!
Thank you, but the time has past for ignoring this predator class.
They have overgrazed the commons, they have devoured sufficient prey to make scarce remaining prey aware of their existential threat.
One last stand of self-defense by their prey seems limited to either being eaten( and thus reducing the predators’ already diminished feeding source),
Or,
making the subsumption of our life work into non-nourishment for these predators.
I totally agree but dont waste your effort responding to teacher james,gonna be hilarious when his pension check bounces in a few years cuz the public sector employees are bleeding the state dry
My belief is that the checks won’t bounce soon enough to save ourselves and our brethren. Therefore we need to make best self-defense efforts against predatory class, on behalf of exploited prey.
I fully agree with you on that. There is a consensus it seems that are comforted with a feeling that the State will eventually have to seek bankruptcy protection without recognizing that there is no provision in the bankruptcy code for an individual State to go bankrupt. Past court decisions indicate the judges in one way or another feel that asset confiscation is an avenue to proceed to if need be on the pension funding meaning in one way or another that “the checks won’t bounce soon enough to save ourselves and our brethren.” Many just don’t seem to be… Read more »
In no direct way whatsoever am I doing anything in your complaint. If you have those kinds of complaints you’ll need to look at society in the larger sense. Essentially your argument is much the same as the slaves descendants who are demanding modern day white Americans pay reparations for the acts of their ancestors. Also, just because you think everyone is plotting against you everywhere and at all times it doesn’t necessarily mean you are paranoid. But, if you read your resoonse again you’ll be hard pressed to deny what I said. You are simply reinforcing it!
The way I see it your comment “modern day white Americans pay reparations for the acts of their ancestors” is what the current Illinois population of taxpayers is being forced to do to pay for the past promises made to the governmental employee unions including the granting of Constitutional protection to the pensions as well is what you meant to say. There, I fixed it for you.
You can’t make a legal claim on someone for taking an action that was perfectly legally when done, then claim later that they owe you something for the crime or societal wrong that the complainant chooses to call it. If there was an illegal occurrence it had to be in the passage of such laws and with any court actions upholding it later.
Hmmmm. Didn’t the Nazi Concentration Camp guards and administrators make a similar argument? Wasn’t that Adolph Eichmann’s argument?
Judging by the down votes it looks like we’ve struck a nerve with CTU members. The truth hurts. Here are the facts: CTU grifters are the worst of the Public Sector Unions and CTU members are essentially thieves. The only way that Chicago kids will ever receive an education is for universal school vouchers to be established, for CTU to be eliminated, all CTU teachers to be fired and teachers prohibited from unionizing. Only then will education become the top priority at CPS.
Everybody claiming to have a moral center must oppose the predatory organized criminals at CTU who prey on minority children
Public school teachers have the legal right to demand payments and they have the legal rights to deny services (while at the same time receiving demanded payments).
I am merely suggesting that ‘denial of services’ tactics might be explored by other professionals, because that has proven to be a lucrative and effective practice for this niche group of public workers-at-their-own-discretion.
Perhaps your reply is intended as sarcasm, irony or some other witty retort and if that’s the case I regret having assumed it might be literal. But in the event you intended it seriously — — I would debate the use of the word “professional” to describe these public servants with B.Ed. degrees, part-time and seasonal work, compensation extorted from the public by withholding their services (or threatening to) and marching in lock-step to a tune called by the unions. Most professionals have considerable autonomy, exercise judgment, work as long as it takes to help those whom they are paid… Read more »
In this case I am being serious. Ethics are a profound responsibility and so “real professionals” are constrained from tactics such as these employed by public unions and teachers. However, medical professionals might question the ethical dilemma: in the duty to extend lifespans of humans, one must consider that by giving aid and comfort to predators, luxurious medical treatment is essentially harming the predators’ prey. Knowing that those who can most easily pay for the most luxurious and life- extending medical services are frequently of this predator class (over-insured early-retired teachers and union masters) creates a dilemma. Triage principles demand… Read more »
Can we at least agree that the argument you are making is above the pay grade of the ordinary worker-bee nurse? I’d have to guess its something all such medical employees contemplate from time to time and resource limitations apply particularly, but if there’s ever a trace of proof its occurring at any level I’d presume its bye-bye to that person’s career, along with legal expenses for the hospital and likely incarcertaion for any such employee as well.
It is irrelevant who is making an argument. Speak to the issue.
I don’t see how its legally in the province of any medical worker, and woe shall likely forever follow any such person.
It has been made legal in Illinois for your kind (encouraged by the narcissistic hypocrite subject of this article) to deny service to children. Professionals on whom you prey may follow your example. When your kind practices denial of service attacks, your victims have a few choices: find a competitive source of provision (private school), or provide service to oneself (homeschool). Following the example set by your kind, medical professionals might rationalize that your kind have similar choices : fight amongst yourselves for access to a diminishing pool of competitive sources (your predatory behavior has diminished the pool of those… Read more »
Hi,im teacher james and i like to use really big words so its sounds like im really really smart!-“thee conglomeration of the hypothetical pythagorean theory is extremely obtuse in its objectification of all possibile theoritizations is perfectly oblivious to every gentrification of the highest possible motivating factor of E= mc squared”-im really really smart cuz im a cps teacher!-lol!!
Oh, joy, we hear from the numb-nuts set now! Sit down, Jabberwocky.
Lol little man
My “kind” isn’t at all as you think it is. I think you are wrapping all teachers, educators in general and probably public employees generally into one huge unit. Even if that’s true in your waffled mind it isn’t true overall in that each group sub-group has different managements and different styles since they aren’t under the same umbrella mafia you suggest. That aside your argument originally here was that medical professional ought to start prioritizing their triage sorts of treatments based upon moral judgments about the patient and even let the worst of such people be pushed to the… Read more »
The coruscant excogitate of the idiosyncratic nebulizer equals the oscillation of the auspicious equanimity,blah blah blah teacher james,go wait on your free check little man-lol!
Looks like teacher james had all of his wimpy liberal teacher friends give all negative responses tonite!-lol,pretty funny teacher james,can u guys respond from jamaica while youre waiting on your free checks!?-disgraceful cps employees!!-lol
Wimpy cps employees,you people are a joke!
Give me some more negative remarks you lil twits,lol
Your argument implies that denial of service attacks such as your kind claims as a justifiable right— the right to deny paid-for services to children— this denial of service attack is justified because State law allows it. That is the very argument Governor George Wallace used to defend his State’s rights to enforce segregation of schools. Then you claim that denial of service by other professions would be immoral or illegal. Ignoring the obvious hypocrisy of your position, we still arrive at the same place. Illinois taxpayers whose economic survival is threatened by your kind should learn from your successful,… Read more »
I believe you are using a false equivalence in your argument. Teachers deny service to all. They do not discriminate, such as choosing to deny service only to the children of the opposition. You claim that your proposal is the same as what the teachers do, but it is not. A general strike by nurses would be the equivalent, not the targeted s trike you advocate.
Denial of educational service to children in public school would be equivalent to denial of medical service to those with luxurious “Cadillac ” insurance. (Remember, Cadillac insurance premiums were taxed in original Obamacare . The taxpenalties for Cadillac insurance were struck down long before the 2.5% excise penalty tax for self employed workers who could not afford astronomical obamacare premiums was removed). The allegory is that those with ample means (that would be taxpayer-funded/guaranteed public employees) have other alternate healthcare provision. This is the argument by public employees whose wages, heath insurance premiums, and retirement entitlements are guaranteed by those… Read more »
Interestingly, while public teachers’ denials of service to children serve one purpose only– self-serving benefit enhancement —
denials of service to Cadillac insurance public entitlements recipients would serve the greater good.
Because, unlike the subject of this article, medical professionals do not like to vacation on a beach and take seafood dinners in crowded marketplaces while fellow humans are stuck at home at risk and suffering.
Therefore, the time saved catering to demands of the sociopathic predator class would be spent extending qaly for honorable humans who do not treat others with such contempt.
I’m through “talking” with you. Its useless. I’ve given you both my thoughts and my personal advice. Take it or leave it.
It is signature characteristic of your predatory self-serving type to self-identify as “giving”, to demand the last word in general while evading specifics, and to imagine that mustering 12 fellow indoctrinated self-serving sociopathic predators to “not like” a specific argument is some sort of victory.
Boo hoo little James,im gonna go hide under my bed and pee myself,wimpy little greedy teachers,youre gonna get yours soon,just wait for it!
Regarding your comment about nurses I would suggest that should you happen to be in an accident or medical emergency that you call a teacher rather than one of the nurses you are referring to…oh and don’t forget only have a need for medical attention during certain days, weeks and months of the year and don’t forget the holidays.
Yep a teacher will fix you right up so you don’t have to lower yourself to treatment from one of those nurses you refer to.
“Ethics are a profound responsibility …” I get a bit confused by the predator-prey classifications. I think you’re saying retired public employees are predators and the prey are taxpayers and others in the rest of society. I note that qaly is a real acronym so extending the lives of “predators” threatens the rest of us. I wonder about the “triage” observation in that triage generally comes into play only in extreme situations like battlefields … and perhaps pandemics. Also, are you saying that care-givers would prioritize those whose insurance would pay full-rate? Sometimes it seems like that in the case… Read more »
Wish I had articulated better, but you got it. I am trying to start the discussion, that the tactics employed successfully by public school teachers (both currently working and those who have vested in <20) could be emulated by those struggling to survive their brutal regime. Denial of pre-paid services to children does no good for society at large, but that tactic has served to extort great personal benefit for the narrow group practicing that tactic. It is worth examining whether that same powerful tactic might be employed by a different segment of society but with the motivation of serving… Read more »
There may be some practical flaws in the idea. A lot of employers offering Cadillac plans could offer cash back to those who selected Chevrolet plans. Many younger employees would opt for the cash and the group plan demographics would lead to cost increases for the employer because those in the Cadillac would tend to be the older and less healthy. I doubt governments would or could legislate this so the service denials would likely come from concerted actions of, say, insurance companies. That would likely raise anti-trust law concerns. Cash-pay markets would be inefficient tax-wise. No tax is generally… Read more »
I am trying to make a point.
‘Denial of service’ (to disabled and other children)is threatened by the subject of this aeticle.
It has prove to be a lucrative tactic for her kind.
Those who are exploited by her kind (to the point of extinction) have to find delf-defense tactics which actually work.
If non-public-entitlements professionals cannot survive here, they leave if they can…or must look for ways to survive which haven’t been tried before.
It seems more realistic to hope that no Federal bailout will occur and that the state and its subdivisions will experience an economic collapse. Bankruptcy would be more orderly, but when the pension trusts run out of money the pensions and retiree health will disappear. In Detroit, the bankruptcy essentially extinguished retiree health except for a nominal monthly payment that might assist in purchasing a low-benefit plan on the Obamacare marketplace. It seems that Biden and Pelosi will be pushing bailouts that would sustain the public systems for a few more years. That could be stymied if voters understood and… Read more »
What you describe may be true, may or may not occur at some indeterminate point in the future and beyond control of exploited professions….. and in the meantime, health care and other professions are commanded by Ilinois law to work, be at risk everyday at work, and pay outlier property tax rates, and understand that their own home values will sink relative to home values across America,….. And this command, this diktat, is all in furtherance of profits and comforts and risk aversion for them such as the subject of this article, pictured above. So pardon me if academic analysis… Read more »
I doubt any professional is commanded to be at work. The consequence of a healthy doctor failing to show up might be loss of job or reduction of pay. What is most troubling is that teachers are so essential that we pay them for not working. This is an upside-down, unsupportable and cynical strategy that undermines the system that permits it to happen. By that I mean that voters and taxpayers are being flimflammed by a minority of the population who are using the tools of the election laws, collective bargaining laws, welfare laws etc. to maintain and demonstrate their… Read more »
yes, to what you said.
I think you recognize that I am trying to open a discussion which is so disturbing that it shakes the complacency out of those who have been complacently tolerating the societal destruction wrought by the powerful minority you aptly described.
But since you brought it up, medical licenses are at the pleasure of “the king”, while teachers’/school admin licenses are not held to that standard…in fact quite the opposite.
“I am merely suggesting that ‘denial of services’ tactics might be explored by other professionals…” And do you have ANY idea of what would HAPPEN in the real world, the free market, IF any “Professional” tried to extort compensation 2-20 times the free market value of their “labor” by denial of services, or any other fraud? Let me tell you, they would be living on skid row picking up cans and cashing in their monthly food stamp allowance. In the REAL WORLD, the FREE MARKET, life and labor skill sets are very different from the Fantasyland of a government employment… Read more »
I am taking a step further (after throwing up in my mouth at hollow gratitude expressed repeatedly at daily gubernatorial press conferences:
“QUANTIFY your gratitude”.
No, Susan, I am aware of no such moral rationale.
No moral rationale for denial of service by anyone? Or just anyone other than teachers?
Tone. Deaf. At what point does CTU demote her or take away her credentials or whatever unions do to shut up their embarrassing spokespeople?
This is absolute smugness on display. The actions of a privileged class who knows they’re untouchable. It’s going to be fun raking them across the coals on this one.
If I were Sharkey, I’d have given explicit orders that no one advertise their travels on social media while the union fights reopening schools. Exercise discretion, as they say. But incompetent leadership begets incompetent actions. Just because they keep paying dues doesn’t mean they respect you.
they don’t. they think she is right and she believes the right things.
I normally don’t like commenting with short attacks on individuals but, what a c**t
Wow! You just can’t make this stuff up! Ms Chambers, Chicago’s Omar.
Another radicalized hypocrite traitor is flushed out…again.
Who will likely be rewarded by being elected to Union Leader or alderman or Illinois rep at some point if history teaches us anything.
Question: Are Chicago teachers still being paid for not teaching ?
But of course they are as well as many other public sector workers,should cut off their free money then they would be clamoring to go back to work
They’ve been paid for not teaching for years
Hell even the janitors are still getting paid to work from home. In some alternative universe you can clean a toilet remotely.
Most State and city workers have not worked since March either but they need more money.
I find it very telling that she didn’t just stay in Venezuela in order to enjoy the superior benefits of their economy and freedoms.
Current Venezuelan dictator, Nicolás Maduro Moros, would not allow her to enter Venezuela on this trip, because she is too radical for his taste.
Where does this “educator” work? At what school does she inflict what she knows on children?
Thanks for calling in Eugene. Great question.