Monthly Case Shiller Index: Chicago Area Home Prices Still Rising – Getting Real blog

Home prices in the Chicago area were up 12.9% for the twelve months through May, which is about where it was the last two times the data was released. Again we are towards the bottom of the ranking of the 20 largest metro areas – third from the bottom this time. But at least we’ve had 13 consecutive months of double digit price increases.
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susan
3 years ago

It’s determined by debt ratios. If a buyer household can document around 30% of income to meet mortgage payments, they qualify for a vanilla mortgage loan. High property tax RATES make a big difference in monthly payment obligations. (Property taxes are typically escrowed and included in total monthly mortgage payments). EXAMPLE: a $300,000 home with typical mortgage (30 year, 5%) and Chicago’s typical~2% property tax RATE*=$2152 monthly payments. (P-tax=$5500). A $300,000 home in Woodstock IL at 3.6% property tax rate* requires a monthly payment of $2519. (P-tax=$9900). A $300,000 home in America, with ~1% property tax rates (and assuming ZERO… Read more »

debtsor
3 years ago
Reply to  susan

The FHA will let borrowers stretch their front end DTI ratio to 40% and their back end to 50% if the have a credit score over 580 and some cash reserves. Otherwise, for the low money down crowd, 31% on the front end, 43% on the back end.

debtsor
3 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

Fannie Mae lets borrowers go up to 50%.

We Are All Subprime Borrowers Now
https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-MB-2515

debtsor
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark Glennon

There’s a pattern where housing prices plateau, maybe creep up a little, right as the number of houses sold starts its free fall. That’s when inventory rises as speculator scum (flippers, air B&Bers, faux-land barons) heads for the exists. Prices are sticky on the way down so it takes a while of very slow home sales before prices start to reflect the falling prices. Then when it is evident that prices are tanking, sellers freak out and delist their properties, because they can’t sell at a loss due to mortgage balances, or whatever, and the lack of homes for sale… Read more »

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debtsor
3 years ago

The word in the trenches is that housing, throughout most of the country, is about to begin a download free fall with little support below. Foot traffic, sales, contracts, mortgages, all of it has slowed down dramatically, and today’s second rate hike is going to be the wooden stake in the heart of this market. This is happening all around the world. Even more Australian builders have gone insolvent in the past few weeks. China has major problems too – in China, you start paying your mortgage as soon as you go under contract to buy new construction, unlike here,… Read more »

Ex-IL Resident
3 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

May was the top of market – these numbers are meaningless . Going forward you will see much different trend numbers

Ataraxis
3 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

Watch the non-bank lenders who are in trouble. They were 48% of the market in 2008 and now they’re 68%! These lenders depend on creditors for all their money, and only hold tiny cash balances. This was identified by the Fed in 2018 as a growing problem, but of course, nothing was done. They are not regulated like banks and are a huge risk to the overall economy that no one in talking about.

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