Column: Is committee’s pension tax plan non-starter in Springfield? – Champaign News-Gazette*

Jim Dey: "Illinois’ most serious pension problem — for now — isn’t about paying current obligations to retirees. It’s the cost of those obligations. Current payments consume more than 20 percent of the state’s budget. That crowds out spending for other basic state programs, i.e. roads, schools and law enforcement."
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Alphabet Soup
3 years ago

A promise is a promise…
20% of state budget currently…only set to rise percentage wise each year

mqyl
3 years ago

“Alternative Plan No. 2 calls for taxing all retirement income of individuals who have an adjusted gross income of $100,000 or more.”

If that plan became law, that would mean some of the resident IL retirees’ pensions would be taxed. If so, would that violate the non-diminishment/non-impairment part of the IL constitution on protecting pensions of State of IL retirees?

debtsor
3 years ago
Reply to  mqyl

No, because they’re not diminishing the pension. The pension ceases to be a pension any longer when it hits the pensioner’s bank account. At that point it transforms into income. The income is taxable. The source of the income is the pension but it is the pensioner’s income. Right now pension income is not taxable. They could change that. Pensioners right now are powerful. Nearly a 1/4 live out of state and don’t vote. They are no longer union members so they don’t have representation in the union at the bargaining table. And if they are getting a pension, they’re… Read more »

Riverbender
3 years ago

A new tax won’t help because if history is any guide the funds will just disappear into some black hole in Chicagoland.

Pensions Paid First
3 years ago
Reply to  Riverbender

Their recommendation also included a “lockbox” requirement that the money is directed at pensions. Without an iron clad requirement it would most definitely be spent on other stuff.

Poor Taxpayer
3 years ago

Just do not pay them. Let the courts decide. Do not fund them and run out of money, it is going to happen anyways, so the sooner the better.
Or
Raise taxes and chase out more residents and get even less money in tax revenue. Overly generous pensions have destroyed Illinois for almost everyone. It is not the most disliked state in the Union.

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