Stacy Davis Gates: Chicagoans can vote for a mayor who values the work we educators do for our students – Chicago Tribune*

"Our city is at a crossroads. We can go forward with a mayor who values the work we do for our students and the city of Chicago. We can choose a mayor who will work collaboratively with stakeholders to reverse the disinvestment our Black and brown communities have suffered for generations. We can choose a mayor who believes in public accommodations and is guided by the power of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.’s dream of the labor and civil rights movements working together to secure justice for all."
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Fed up neighbor
3 years ago

What work

James
3 years ago

Apparently a teacher has to carry a shovel or some other manual labor tool or you think he’s a worthless person. You have only the vaguest idea of a teacher’s work, yet throw out stupid adolescent-level insults. GROW UP!

Da Judge
3 years ago
Reply to  James

I do know teachers in Chicago have the shortest work year among all major cities.

James
3 years ago
Reply to  Da Judge

Are you seriously going to judge job classifications primarily by the time required to do them? The length of their contract is determined by negotiation, a process subject to consideration by the employer, don’t you think? If that’s your core focus “you need to get out more.” If not, I think you ought to make the same sorts of derisive comments about other people who work WAY less than teachers do in terms of time commitment and earn WAY more. Such people are out there. Society has to pay for what it wants and does so or suffers the consequences.… Read more »

ProzacPlease
3 years ago
Reply to  James

Most of us judge the value of work by the results.

James
3 years ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

I’d say “most” is simply your guess. Da Judge has a simpler way of estimating an employee’s worth. Who’s to say that most citizens don’t have similarly simplistic measuring sticks? “Results” for teacher evaluations depends to a great extent upon things beyond their own control. Don’t care to believe it? If so, you’ve never been there and done that.

ProzacPlease
3 years ago
Reply to  James

The only professionals who very loudly proclaim that they can’t be expected to produce results, but they should be increasingly rewarded.

James
3 years ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

Those two thoughts are not necessarily as incompatible as you seem to think. Not everything a teacher is expected to do is as easy as many here often portray it. Teachers all wish they had jobs where you are considered a winner in all aspects of it all the time. That’s never the case for that job. Instead you win sometimes, lose sometimes and hope on balance perception of your performance reflects the former more times than not.

Riverbender
3 years ago
Reply to  James

Negotiation by union members that can strike along with tenured job security is a lopsided negotiation.

James
3 years ago
Reply to  Riverbender

Fine. Let’s get that changed. But, if there’s no tenure and teachers can easily be dismissed by any criticism the administration’s “squeaky wheel” low tolerance level can tolerate you’ll need to factor in that job security for teachers will be a thing of the past and that a “long career” may soon become five years or so and with no retirement prospects at all. Think you’ll have many people wanting to take on those jobs or even bother getting educated to do so? Think they’ll do so for the same kinds of wages being paid now? Think again!

Riverbender
3 years ago
Reply to  James

I have met many a teacher that is incompetent, lazy or otherwise unable to deliver quality teaching, as a practical matter. Then they can go on strike to demand more money. Contrary to your opinion at a State University here many education majors can’t find openings because there is no shortage with the excerption of math and science. The best thing that could be done is to fire the bunch of them, have them reapply and the incompetents ones replaced by new certified qualified teachers. There would be no need for unions and tenure if the incompetent ones were simply… Read more »

James
3 years ago
Reply to  Riverbender

Literally everyone is good at some aspects of their job, average at others and terrible at yet a few more. I’d bet you are no different. If you aren’t with a person day after day in the various ways they have to do their job you are cherry picking aspects that you don’t like and conflating those to assume everything you’ve not personally observed was done in the same manner. Some jobs carry a very narrow set of expectations as others would look at it. Teachers are not a part of that more privileged set of workers. If you research… Read more »

Pensions Paid First
3 years ago
Reply to  Riverbender

So a fair negotiation for you means that labor must provide the very thing they are negotiating even if you offer unacceptable wages or working conditions? That’s only fair to management. Union members are trading their labor for agreed upon compensation. If you don’t agree to their compensation terms you don’t get access to their labor. Why are you entitled to someone else’s labor for any price you name?

Giddyap
3 years ago

Gutter level race hustle fraud in a cheap shitty wig — just about the worst of the worst

Poor Taxpayer
3 years ago

Vote with your feet. Give PPF and the rest of the lazy leaches the 1 finger salute as you cross the state line for Texas or Florida.

Da Judge
3 years ago
Reply to  Poor Taxpayer

Poor Taxpayer,

Give them all the double 1 finger salute as I did over 20 years ago.

Average property tax where I live is 0.6%, average in Taxistan is 2.25% and going up fast.

What a RACKET!!

Da Judge

Tom Paine's Ghost
3 years ago

Davis Gates is an illiterate CTU buffoon. Anyone who listens to the rantings of this vermin doesn’t deserve Democracy.

Pensions Paid First
3 years ago

She’s right. The city is at a crossroads. Do the voters want the ideas of the CTU running the entire city? If that happens, people need to stop blaming unions and accept that the voters want more government. They want more taxes. They want more crime. While I don’t think Johnson wins. If it happens people need to stop making excuses and accept the outcome. It won’t be caused by the media, unions or fraud but it will be a direct result of the voters and their preferred outcome. I think Vallas is elected Tuesday but I know the doom… Read more »

debtsor
3 years ago

I’ll be super happy if Johnson is elected. I’m 100% in favor of accellerationism to destabilize existing systems and create radical social transformation into a Marxist progressive utopia.

Yes, because for selfish reasons, not for nihilistic reasons. As people flee Chicago for the suburbs, my home in Cook County will increase in value and be in high demand. I might be able to avoid most of the impending housing bubble crash. I can sell at a decent price AND pick up my real round lake house up north on the cheap as AirB&B barons sell at a loss.

debtsor
3 years ago
Reply to  debtsor
ProzacPlease
3 years ago

Since Brandon Johnson would not even be a candidate if not for union support, I think it would be fair to blame the unions if he is elected.

As for the idea that voters want more taxes if Johnson is elected, that is probably true. But of course the Johnson voters are voting to make sure the Vallas voters pay more taxes. Most of the Johnson voters are not voting to increase their own taxes. Just voting their hands into their neighbor’s pockets.

Pensions Paid First
3 years ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

Of course you would find that fair. You’re always looking for someone else to blame but the voters. Living as a victim is tough to overcome.

Riverbender
3 years ago

I often tend to think there are voters and those that can vole but are to complacent to vote, The union types will vote for Johnson, black votes black and I envision the free stuff army votes for the most liberal that hands out the most candy…meaning my speculation is that Johnson will win.
<<note add one dollar to my opinion and you can buy a cup of coffee somewhere>>

Da Judge
3 years ago

SDG is another corrupt CTU socialist.

If you vote based on her recc you are a simpleton!!

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