Opponents Scrambling to Block Parking Meter-Style Deal Brewing in Springfield – WTTW (Chicago)

(WTTW News)House Bill 2878 and House Joint Resolution 23 both include provisions that would expand the scope of public-private infrastructure partnerships, in effect ceding a portion of control over planning and development to private entities, opponents said. The infrastructure most immediately in question is I-55, specifically a plan to expand the highway by adding express toll lanes that would be managed by a private party.
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Streeterville
2 years ago

So Springfield politicians haven’t learned from Chicago’s BIG MISTAKE?

Old Joe
2 years ago

Folks, it’s possible to have a state without a single toll road. Just drive to Michigan. It really can be done.

Joey Zamboni
2 years ago

Widen I-55 for who…?

Who will be going into this dying city…?

Oh yeah for the criminals, so they can make a quick getaway…

Investing in this city is a losing proposition…

The Railroader
2 years ago

The tollway bypass will be just another avenue for Illinois’ politicians to put their friends and family on the payroll, like the Illinois Tollway Authority, RTA, Metra, CTA,…

Giddyap
2 years ago

Tolling may make sense — but not the kind of flexible “dynamic” rate tolling that was authorized by crooked corrupt Virginia Democrats some years ago, which produced insane rush hour toll charges of $40 to go 10 miles

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/12/07/states-governments-increasingly-turn-tolls-manage-highway-traffic-jams/930900001/

Last edited 2 years ago by Giddyap
your dime, your dance floor
2 years ago
Reply to  Giddyap

Then don’t take the tollway at rush hour. Dynamic pricing is a way to discover the true value of a good or service at the time it is consumed. This type of pricing is widely used throughout the economy and should be used more often.

Giddyap
2 years ago

Most non-remote workers don’t have the luxury of adjusting their work schedule — this is pure predatory pricing for commuters who have no other options.

This is not like a typical consumer scenario where a price hike by one brand lets the consumer pick another. This arrangement is an abusive state sanctioned monopoly.

your dime, your dance floor
2 years ago
Reply to  Giddyap

Commuters have plenty of other options to get to work if they don’t want to pay the congestion pricing on this portion of I66. If they choose to drive by themselves, those options will be longer and slower, but that’s the choice they’ll have to make. We make these types of decisions everyday in our economic life. This choice is no different.

debtsor
2 years ago

A tollway is not a good or service – it’s public infrastructure. IL currently has it’s own but slightly different version of this right now: The Kennedy Closure.

Residents are avoiding the Kennedy, not because of the tolls, but because of insane congestion, but it’s the same result: fewer cars on the Kennedy during rush hour.

All its done is push the Kennedy traffic onto side streets, with Caldwell, Elston, Ridge, Lincoln & Milwaukee being more crowded than ever before. People will just take alternate routes instead of paying the $40 toll.

your dime, your dance floor
2 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

I believe most economists would disagree with you and say that roads are a good, a public good. In our dicussion of congestion pricing on I66 the discussion moves to certain types of roads either being private goods or acting like private goods. Private goods have exclusivity and rationing through pricing and this is exactly what a toll road does.

All our other roads that we travel are considered public goods because everyone has equal access and there is no exclusivity or rationing of the use of that road.

debtsor
2 years ago

Is Infrastructure a Public Good? No, Sort Of, and What Role for the Public and Private Sectors
https://www.ifsd.ca/en/blog/last-page-blog/infrastructure-public-good

Economists make Astrologists look reasonable!

your dime, your dance floor
2 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

Nobody makes astrolgists look reasonable except maybe “professioal wrestlers”.

debtsor
2 years ago

The quote I was paraphrasing is:

“The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.” – John Kenneth Galbraith.

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