Are Illinois Public Retirement Systems Pension Funds Or Pyramid Schemes? – Forbes

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Hank Scorpio
7 years ago

What I am amazed by is why Tier2 teachers have not quit in droves. I would be interested to see a chart of teacher membership numbers for last 10 years — I remember reading something a few months ago about teachers quitting at an elevated rate (nation wide).

nixit
7 years ago
Reply to  Hank Scorpio

If you look at the quit rates publish by the USDOL, you’ll see teachers (and govt employees in general) are the least likely to quit their jobs. If teachers are indeed quitting at an elevated rate, so are all the other professions.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/jolts.t04.htm

Hank Scorpio
7 years ago
Reply to  nixit

I think those numbers are too broad — the education category probably includes administrators and college, no? Anyway, google “teachers quitting” to find the relevant report from December 2018. Though, I am mostly interested in how Tier2 Illinois teachers are responding — they are the people at the bottom of the scheme paying everyone above them.

nixit
7 years ago
Reply to  Hank Scorpio

Those numbers are indeed broad as they include all school support staff, right down to the bus drivers. But the point is if those quit rates are already low, they’re even lower for teachers. Not sure if there are numbers specific to Tier 2 teachers.

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