Rich Miller: Pension issue not just in Chicago – Pantagraph

Comment: Miller's basic message here is that Lightfoot must work together with Springfield to find the right way to raise taxes to fund pensions.
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NB-Chicago
6 years ago

funny how political “rookie” progressives–Lightfoot & Kagie, who haven’t spent their carers in the machine have basically got the shaft so far. according to miller its not about good policy or whats fair, its all about relationships, who knows who & wheres mine. ya gotsa knows hows ta ask. and don’t forget the knee pads when ya go beg-gen to lord madigan

debtsor
6 years ago
Reply to  NB-Chicago

I fully expect a shakeup in the next 6-12 months as Madigan will likely be indicted. Its inevitable. There’s a HUGE federal target on his head. Even he is not so naive to believe that Solis wasn’t the only person sitting less than 5 feet from him, in his very office, wearing a wire, with the feds listening. They’re all talking…and giving info….and talking more..and telling all they know.

world with end
6 years ago

There should be no new or increased taxes or user fees in Chicago or IL to fund pensions or health care benefits. Pensions and health care benefits need to be reduced substantially so that the overall retirement benefits of state workers are comparable to those of the average American retiree, and so that the IL taxpayers get some relief from their burden.

Also, this guy’s reluctance to reduce pensions because it would be unconstitutional is a lame reason not to do so.

James
6 years ago
Reply to  world with end

Hey, tell it as you see it; don’t be shy, world without end. You must be like those drivers in Italy who see street signs as suggestions rather than laws. Let’s see the IL Constitution that way and the U. S. Constitution, too, letting literally everyone decide individually what’s legally enforceable and what isn’t! After all, what could possibly go wrong? Defending either constitution and expecting it to be enforceable is so “lame.”

world with end
6 years ago
Reply to  James

Reducing pensions is unconstitutional until it wouldn’t be after an amendment is passed. That’s why I’m saying that any argument not to try to reduce pensions because the state constitution says you can’t is a lame one.

world with end
6 years ago
Reply to  world with end

It seems that there are only two options left to save IL: insolvency or bankruptcy resulting in restructuring the state’s financing and payment systems (including the retirement payment and benefits system), or being proactive to make these systems less burdensome to the taxpayer via constitutional amendments, for example. The IL pols over the many years haven’t been interested in the latter.

riverbender
6 years ago
Reply to  world with end

There is a third option when all the real estate in Illinois becomes the property of the State. Those pensions et al are first mortgages on all property within the state. It is the will of the people to because the population by voting or not voting allowed the political climate that created the problem.

James
6 years ago
Reply to  world with end

“Yes,” but “no” if what’s done doesn’t properly consider the prohibition against ex post facto laws. You might get some of what you want but likely not much in the way of ignoring rights already granted under prior laws. I think you surely know that.

James
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Glennon

I stand corrected. Mine error, mein herr.

nixit
6 years ago

Miller is Illinois’ quintessential passive-aggressive spin doctor: You *could* create a new tax, can’t cut operating costs, yadda yadda. Many of his articles come across as a journalist who took one Psych class or a Psych major who took one class in Journalism. Either way, the attempts at subliminal messaging are falling flat.

Bob Out of here
6 years ago
Reply to  nixit

One of the “devil’s in the details” of the graduated income tax amendment would allow more than one tax on the same income, meaning there could be a pension tax surcharge in addition to state income tax on what you make.

Tom Paine's Ghost
6 years ago

To be clear: Rich Miller is not a journalist. Rich Miller is the Mike Madigan PR Department. Rich Miller hasnt had a thought or written a word that he hasnt first passed by Mike Madigan for approval.

debtsor
6 years ago

He’s an idiot. That’s what he is. Zero respect for the guy. I would probably spit on him if I met him at a cocktail party. Lucky for him, we run in different circles.

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