Gov. J.B. Pritzker proposes consolidation of suburban and downstate police and firefighter pension funds – Chicago Tribune

Each police or fire department would maintain a separate account within the funds, and the money would be held in a pair of trusts separate from the state treasury. Assets and liabilities would not be shifted from one municipality’s plan to another. But the funds would be able to pool their assets for investment purposes and cut down on administrative fees currently paid separately by each local fund.
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6 years ago

Why don’t we change our perceptions, there are so many ways to change. There are books to share with us about that

Cass Andra
6 years ago

Getting tentative approval on so loosely described a concept is a bad idea. A lot like Obamacare where congress bought a pig in a poke. Among the questions that occur to me are: 1) Who sets the actuarial assumptions? 2) Who determines eligibility for disability pensions and assures that the disability persists? 3) Ditto for retiree health benefits. 4) Does ANYONE understand the liabilities being taken over and whether or not they’ve been calculated on a consistent basis? 5) What unknown contingent liabilities are being undertaken — oral promises or “understandings” that grew out of past practices? What lawsuits are… Read more »

Cass Andra
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark Glennon

Michigan has a Municipal Employees Retirement System that (at least superficially) resembles what I understood the IL proposal to propose. MERS was at first a state entity and then was spun-off to be an independent non-profit entity. Perhaps the Illinois proponents have figured out the multiplicity of issues. If this proposal could be accomplished without collective bargaining, that would avoid many obstacles at the outset. One of the obstacles in Michigan was municipalities wanting to pull out of the multiple employer arrangement when they didn’t like the actuarial reviews or the funding expectations of the statewide system. The withdrawal requirements… Read more »

NB-Chicago
6 years ago
Reply to  Cass Andra

Fantastic cass, –doesn’t the articale say consolidation plan is already proposing adding certain overriding rules that would apply for all the 100s of differnt plans— benifits for serviving spouses for first responders killed in line of duty, and minimal funding for plans that pay less than ss? Point being that once all these plans are consolidated under one umbrela, as you point out, than its easy for state to add benifit goodies and change actuarial rules that override the 100s of individual plans. Also, seems this will allow all the 100s of pension plans to take on more riskie equity… Read more »

Astonished
6 years ago

If we lived in an honest society, we’d already know how Pritzger, Madigan and their pals get paid to funnel more pension loot into the hands of “money managers.” This looks to me like JB-the-Hutt’s money-buddies want to cut out their competitors, the ones managing some of the loot now. Consolidation means ALL the loot gets put in one firm’s hands, and it is CERTAIN that (1) JB et. al. get a kickback and (2) the fees paid are exorbitant somewhere along the line. IL politicians don’t do JACK unless more $ comes their way as a result. If we… Read more »

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