Illinois lawmakers propose taxpayers pay for first two years of college for state residents – Center Square

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Downstate cynic
6 years ago

Thought experiment As the government takes over more and more health care coverage, they set payment rates. When Illinois is out of cash they expect providers to still provide services and wait 6-12 months to receive payment that is also below cost. So if they are going to start paying tuition, maybe they should start mandating tuition levels or academic pay schedules. And the academic staff and administrative staff has to continue to teach and work even if the state is 6-12 months behind in payments. The colleges could then reduce academic and other staff salaries in proportion to the… Read more »

mqyl
6 years ago

Not surprisingly, this is another IL pol proposal that will accelerate outward migration, especially for those with higher incomes. In other words, it’s another stupid idea.

Freddy
6 years ago

Isn’t it amazing on how generous the pols are with taxpayers money! Forced redistribution of wealth. Tax someone into oblivion and give it to someone else. Then once we are in oblivion (totally broke) we will be the recipients of tax dollars from someone else who was taxed into oblivion IF there are any taxpayers left. A real Catch 22.

debtsor
6 years ago

The real story here is that state universities are so -s h i tty- that the state has to give away two years tuition for free just to attract students. “College enrollment has dropped for years in Illinois, from a high of more than 930,000 students in 2010 to just under 768,000 in 2017, the most recent year for which data is available.” (9/13/2019) https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-cb-fall-enrollment-2019-illinois-universities-20190905-ajhizgv6sfbltesmim732kiuma-story.html Of course there is *fine print*. I’m sure tuition will be means tested, so that kids with ‘rich’ parents (i.e. $70,000+ household income) won’t qualify, and those who do, must still take student loans to… Read more »

Astonished
6 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

Just another welfare program. No doubt they’ll happily invite those with Down Syndrome to attend college…and the congenitally blind to attend pilot school.

Tom Paine's Ghost
6 years ago

“How did you go bankrupt?”
“Two ways. Gradually then suddenly.”

Astonished
6 years ago

Such programs simply throw money at already-BLOATED educational institutions whose mission has so deviated from the original (providing an actual education, rather than indoctrination) that they’re caricatures of their former selves.

Also, most people SHOULD NOT go to college. It’s an expensive (and proposed “all expenses paid”) extension of adolescence for vast numbers of people. A law like this does NOTHING to hold educators and students accountable for actually USING THE LOOT WISELY.

Platinum Goose
6 years ago
Reply to  Astonished

It is about indoctrination. You notice they do nothing to put any of these kids in trade school because then it would be more difficult to indoctrinate them.

Many trades out there where you can easily make $100K a year and there’s a shortage of workers.

Astonished
6 years ago
Reply to  Platinum Goose

…and no one in China is going to fix plumbing in IL. Not to mention that in our “everyone should go to college” idiocy, half of all people don’t graduate (but they still carry the debt) and of those who do, fully half of them end up in jobs that don’t require their credential. It’s a SCAM. But you can get degrees in hobbies (e.g., photography), in arts where in reality your job depends on a try-out, not a piece of paper, and in made-up Leftist idiocy like “women’s studies” or “African studies.” We used to joke about degrees in… Read more »

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