Big investor won’t buy uninsured bonds from Illinois, Chicago – Bloomberg

Franklin Templeton Investments says no way.
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Rick
6 years ago

_It’s high time bond holders start to take a haircut, it’s is time to default on bond payments. It’s either them or the taxpayers that get screwed, I’d much rather it be the bond holders. Moodys has been screwing over the taxpayers with fraudulently “just above junk” ratings that should be junk, attracting many to this market to soak us on rates. The chickens need to roost, screw these bond holders, every one of them, they used the situation here to profit on the giant Ponzi scheme the raters keep alive.

J.
6 years ago
Reply to  Rick

Maybe defaulting on bond payments would have some blowback for Moody’s but they didn’t buy the bonds. The bonds are likely secured by assets or other resources of whichever municipality issued them, or by assets of the state. In the Detroit bankruptcy, both pensioners and bondholders took a haircut. State and municipal debts are ultimately paid by taxpayers unless there is a bankruptcy. States can’t go bankrupt under the current law and municipalities would probably be prevented by the state legislature or the governor from filing for bankruptcy. If those taxpayers who are voters would focus their outrage and displeasure… Read more »

Freddy
6 years ago
Reply to  Rick

Unfortunately bondholders can’t lose because Madigan sneaked in the last minute a provision that in the event of bankruptcy of a home rule community bondholders can get 90% of future sales tax revenue for up to 40 years or until paid in full. This even trumps (no pun intended) pensioners. Check out Jeanne Ives speech at the City Club on youtube starts just past the 36:00 minute mark. I think that provision is not for only Chicago but for all home rule cities in Illinois. Mark may know more details. Please correct me if I am mistaken!!

DantheMan
6 years ago

And so it begins. First one investor refuses to lend. Soon there will be others.

Bob Out of Here
6 years ago
Reply to  DantheMan

Was wondering myself this morning. This could either be much ado over nothing, or it could be a watershed moment where the boom is finally lowered and nobody wants city and state bonds from Chi/IL any more. Only time will tell.

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