Chicago Public Schools reaches historic tentative bargaining agreement with its principals – Chalkbeat Chicago

It includes a retroactive 4 percent cost-of-living increase for the 2024-25 school year and more due process protections for principals who face discipline, said Kia Banks, the president of the Chicago Principals and Administrators Association. The retroactive 4 percent cost-of-living increase is in line with what the teachers union negotiated in its own agreement.
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daskoterzar
8 months ago

Oh – Come on people…it’s all about the Kids. Hey, hey…This cost is chicken feed when you look at the results, I mean…well, er, don’t look at the results…look at the quality humans we are creating…er, well, don’t look at that either…look at how we are impacting the quality of life for….er, well don’t look at that either….never mind – just pay us more because we said so.

The value is just not there. Close it Fire them all. Leave it closed.

James
8 months ago
Reply to  daskoterzar

Yes, on the surface that seems appealing. But, so far the voucher system isn’t being taken seriously enough as a logical alternative, and private school tuitions tend to be an unaffordable luxury for many families. So, what’s the acceptable solution? Do we really want hundreds of thousands of children free to do their “thing” all day without guaranteed adult supervision? That’s not so appealing either, is it? Give us some hope for an attractive solution here.

ProzacPlease
8 months ago
Reply to  James

Sounds like what you’re offering is a babysitting service. An extremely overpaid babysitting service. So the solution would be to align the pay scale with the value of the service provided.

James
8 months ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

If that’s the pay scale you’re sure to get baby sitter candidates. Offering more will spike the higher caliber choices but with no guarantee of better results— only the likelihood of it. Rome wasn’t built in a day nor is a person educational growth. It’s a slow progression of skills and the learner’s time, all requiring dedication, and intellectual curiosity. Those preferring to watch the clock turn and consustently doing other things not related to the basic cause are wasting the taxpayers’ money and the teachers’ time. Such is life where education is mandatory for all young people rather than… Read more »

ProzacPlease
8 months ago
Reply to  James

You’ve already characterized it as babysitting. Now you want to raise an alarm that we might not get PhDs to deliver that service?

I agree that mandatory education for all young people is part of the problem. Education associations advocated for that very thing over a hundred years ago, and got what they wanted. Now they are rallying for more illegal immigrants to fill the schools, and coincidentally more money into education for these children who don’t speak English. And those same educators will point to the illegals they wanted as the reason they can’t be expected to actually teach.

James
7 months ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

As they say in FL life’s a beach. Somehow we all need to learn to swim before being drowned by the inevitable high tides that will come our way.

ProzacPlease
7 months ago
Reply to  James

Please James, take down those 1970s dorm room posters. Quoting them is not the way to navigate life 50 years later. I remember them too, that’s how I recognize the sayings you spout.

And for God’s sake get rid of the Che Guevara in a beret poster too. PPF is depending on you.

James
7 months ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

I need to be more like you apparently. It’s on my to do list.

daskoterzar
8 months ago
Reply to  James

Nah, can’t leave it closed. Closing it, firing all and starting over would be a place to start. It may be too far gone. James – I’m afraid a solution can’t be found, the unions will not allow what actually needs to be done. Impacting the home life and parents behavior is the real answer, but I haven’t seen a good solution to that monstrous problem. I believe this is a major crux of the value proposition. The entire cost structure of delivering education needs to be re-aligned. The education business as it is today, with every decision they make,… Read more »

Leaving Soon, just not soon enough
8 months ago

Greed is one of the original sins. The system is flat A$$ broke and is failing and they still want more. Kick the taxpayer when they are down and kick them again.

Where's Mine ???
8 months ago

How does avg CPS $161,000 principle & $131,000 assist principle + 4% yearly increase salaries:

–compare statewide?
–compare nationally?
–How are these salaries/salary increases calculated in state EBF? (Ditto for teachers, staff, etc.). How are the 7,000 CPS COVID hires, the majority of whom are bureaucracy positions, calculated in state EBF?
–Does CPS need fully staffed principle, assistance principle, etc at CPS schools that are only fractionally populated?

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James
8 months ago

I will never defend the CTU for any reason but I will also say this — if I woke up tomorrow and found my salary had been reduced to $161,000 a year, I would no longer want to live.

Where's Mine ???
8 months ago
Reply to  James

funny!!, you must be in the class of 127,000 Chicago millionaires and/or those making over $200gs a yr that CTU/Brandon wants to tax out of town?

Last edited 8 months ago by Where's Mine ???
Illinois Born, Texas Living
8 months ago

They are doing a poor job. Only fitting they get such pathetically low salaries.

Bob smith
8 months ago

Where is the money coming to cover this increase in in the budget ???

PPF
8 months ago
Reply to  Bob smith

Taxpayers.

Deb
8 months ago

They don’t deserve a raise until the schools actually start teaching and math and reading test scores improve. Stop rewarding poor performance.

PPF
8 months ago
Reply to  Deb

Nope. They deserved the raise that they negotiated and agreed to by their employer. The cost of labor is going up and employing principals is no different.

Call my shrink
8 months ago

Good. Lets shovel more bucks into a broken system

Hello, Indiana!
8 months ago
Reply to  Call my shrink

Don’t look now, but Homie removed his foot from his mouth long enough to authorize special schools in a system that already has half filled to empty ones already.

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