Lesson from Wisconsin: Reopening didn’t doom its coronavirus efforts – by Wirepoints’ Mark Glennon – Chicago Tribune

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Riverbender
3 years ago

The people of Wisconsin are using common sense. Based upon the politicians the Illinoisans vote into office am I supposed to believe that they, the Illinoisans, have common sense?

robert maple
3 years ago

What about the 19 states with rising covid-19 numbers? I like the way Illinois is moving along. Are there other fully opened states that show Wisconsin’s like stats?
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Riverbender
3 years ago
Reply to  robert maple

More testing means more discovered wouldn’t you say?

Lyn P
3 years ago
Reply to  robert maple

Don’t you just love how the medical and journo mafias have turned most formerly reasoning folks into “Covid case obsessed” tunnel thinkers….are these “new lay scientists” going to now harp on all flu and cold case numbers between Oct. – Apr. of every year??? If not why not??? Cases cases cases. Show me where legitimate IFR exceeds flu and then there’s an intelligent measure of meaning to discuss. Then we might even discuss how fake the tests are.

Max Raimi
3 years ago

Let’s review the bidding, as they say in bridge. 1: There were 286 new cases reported in Wisconsin on May 13, just as they were forced to reopen; yesterday there were 304 cases (both numbers courtesy of the New York Times). 2: According to NBC 5 in Chicago, there were 1677 new cases in Illinois on May 13. Yesterday–546. Illinois, then, has cut its cases by two thirds by not reopening, while Wisconsin has been treading water; actually taking on a little water. 3: In a number of states that have reopened recently–Florida, Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina–there has been an… Read more »

debtsor
3 years ago
Reply to  Max Raimi

alarming spike in new cases”
 
You are no longer an objective observer as you proclaim to be, but instead, an activist. The moment you use the word ‘alarming’ to describe more widespread testing, you give away your agenda, JB.

Lyn P
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark Glennon

Pigster is to science what a sauna is to an ice cream cone. His objective is to break the state and move to a Leftie/Marxist system. We’re getting the Wokesterism we voted for…..except I didn’t.

Appreciative Fan
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark Glennon

I appreciate the sentiment and like that you look at all the numbers/data sets, but don’t look at each data point in a vacuum.

Hospitalization rate let’s you know when your in trouble but without looking at testing rates/positivity rates, new cases (rolling benchmarks), and active case rates simultaneously you cannot see the whole situation.

debtsor
3 years ago

I was just in wisconsin last weekend. Mask are worn by many people, including all service industry, and there is social distancing in most places. It’s just sensible up there, not draconian like down here.

Lyn P
3 years ago

I’ve stood firm since these dictates (or “guidelines”) started that they are a con designed to normalize behavioral control from above, and have nothing to do with spread or containment of the “virus.” I mean really, WHEN did we decide that S.D. and masks have any validity in halting millions of always-changing viral particles in the universe??? It’s just a trending change in behavior from tyrannical-leaning politicos and medical mafia. Recommendations were in order for the elderly and ill/at-risk (totally blown in the nursing homes of course), but I’m not falling down the slippery slope of this anti-liberty nonsense.

Katherine Ecklund
3 years ago

Mark Glennon missed one glaring factor in his assessment. After Wisconsin opened up with virtually no guidelines or restrictions, it was swarmed each weekend, particularly Memorial Day weekend, with tourists, mostly from Illinois. What about those tourists, most of whom have been comporting themselves as though no virus exists, going home after days of revelry and spreading it in Illinois?   Contrary to his opinion about social distancing being largely obeyed, nothing could be further from the truth! Almost no one wore masks or showed any regard for keeping distance. The sidewalks were packed shoulder to shoulder, as was the… Read more »

Lyn P
3 years ago

Need Proof of Claim that these “principles” of social distancing or masks do ONE DARN IOTA OF ANYTHING as it relates to illness in the general public. There is none – it is a Hoax. People need to get that straight soon or the tentacles of control will continue to spread. Lots of reading available on this, not least of which is AIER article describing how this idea got to the Fed numnuts because of a schoolgirls’ conceptual science project. The adults in the room have abandoned ship big time.

The Truth Hurts
3 years ago

Wisconsin only has about 13.5% of the population that is AA or Hispanic. Compare that to Illinois with around 32% or the city of Chicago around 63%. Probably less to do with social distancing and more to do with the racist virus.
 
We know these populations have a higher rate of vitamin D deficiency which is linked to higher incidence of diabetes and respiratory infections.
 
 

Last edited 3 years ago by The Truth Hurts
Freddy
3 years ago

Being low in these vital nutrients like Vitamin D-magnesium-omega 3’s-zinc-b vitamins all add to untimely deaths from all causes. Most medicines that people take like HCTZ/diuretics for BP and diabetes medicines deplete b-12/CoQ10/folate and should be repleted. I still say that indirectly or directly the severity of Covid is caused by the many medicines people over 60 take. It is not uncommon for seniors to be on 5-10 different meds. Residents in nursing homes rarely get some sunlight. Why is it that younger people are somewhat spared from this? They are not on statins or BP meds yet but I’m… Read more »

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