Dumb and Dumber: Another awful article on an Illinois city’s municipal pensions – WP Original

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Mike
11 years ago

“According to Matt Williams, who does pensions for the Alton Fire Department, the unfunded liability works similarly to a mortgage.” The same tired point repeated endlessly by unions and public sector pension supporters without putting too much thought into what that means to the taxpayer. Whenever these newspaper articles come out, the taxpayer is rarely reminded of the following fact. The taxpayer has many so called “mortgages” at the city, county, state, and Federal level. Just one more reason the mortgage analogy doesn’t work. Sort of like talking about the bedroom dresser charge on your credit card, and not talking… Read more »

Jim Palermo
11 years ago
Reply to  Mike

What exactly does it mean to ‘do pensions’? Several folks in my village have worked on the police and fire pensions for many years but have demonstrated little understanding of the details behind funding calculations and actuarial assumptions.

It is clear to me that there are too may plans in Illinois and too few pension trustees or municipal staffers with sufficient expertise to govern the plans adequately. Consolidation of the 600-some plans is a must.

RogerThat
11 years ago

The quote from the pension official comparing it to a mortgage is especially foolish. It should be compared to a negative amo mortgage.

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