National coalition urges states to enact ‘wealth’ taxes – Center Square

Coalition members and Illinois state Rep. Will Guzzard said, “We are going to treat those unrealized gains like income, because that's what they are for these billionaires, they’re not making income from going to work and getting paid a salary like the rest of us do, they make their income from moving around these esoteric financial instruments and its time we tax that just like we tax the income for everybody else."
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Pat S.
3 years ago

Talk about stoking class rivalry! Get the peasants on our side to stick it to the wealthy – then we can stick it to the peasants! For the uninitiated: ‘unrealized gains’ are the difference between what you paid for an equity (usually a stock, bond, or mutual fund) and what the market states that equity is worth today. ‘Realized gains’ are what you earned or loss when you actually sell the equity and have that money in your pocket. This proposes to tax money that has never been in your pocket. A new low for government and I expect would… Read more »

Illinois Entrepreneur
3 years ago
Reply to  Pat S.

Agreed. It will make the public markets much more illiquid, as people move money to darker, more opaque places.

Democrats are truly vapid.

Old Joe
3 years ago
Reply to  Pat S.

Hold on Pat, perhaps we’ll be able to write off the unrealized loss on Illinois real estate!

Pat S.
3 years ago
Reply to  Old Joe

The thought brings tears to my eyes as we are getting ready to sell and realize a loss. Gah!

Last edited 3 years ago by Pat S.
Giddyap
3 years ago

These are all the states that are bleeding population, breeding crime

Stewie the Roof Baby
3 years ago

I can’t wait for the rich to hit these idiots with mountains of unrealized losses thanks to Senile Biden’s bear market

Illinois Entrepreneur
3 years ago

But you know that the Democrats will attempt to rig that game where you cannot get refunds or offset actual cash income.

However, once the tax lobbyists and cronies get in there, then these will de deductible and the whole thing will be pointless, but yet another “loophole” to offset taxes.

Poor Taxpayer
3 years ago

The rich invest in businesses that employee people. Government takes taxpayers money and wastes it. Without businesses investment the economy does not work.

Illinois Entrepreneur
3 years ago
Reply to  Poor Taxpayer

We’re getting closer to that point now, aren’t we?

Trash Panda
3 years ago

How about common sense spending? How about stopping the great give a way scheme to stroke the egos of special interest groups or curry favor among certain voting blocks? How about having a budget and staying within the amounts of money that there is to spend?

Illinois Entrepreneur
3 years ago
Reply to  Trash Panda

Interestingly, governments at all levels have record revenues. These tax proposals are not solving any existing problem, just adding to the governments’ drain on economic resources in the private sector.

Wally
3 years ago

They want more money for social programs, healthcare, and education. In IL, pensions take up more and more of the revenue, so those programs get squeezed. I’m not sure that a wealth tax can keep up with the increasing cost of pensions, especially when the wealthy leave.

Gregg Brown
3 years ago

They may say their target is the “rich” but there are not enough of them to generate significant tax revenue. They are coming after us.

Old Joe
3 years ago
Reply to  Gregg Brown

Hey Greg, you’re catching on…

Riverbender
3 years ago

One might argue that inflation in general causes the price of a stock to go up. One might argue too that the actions of Government causes inflation. So add those two together and the Government causes inflation so the stock price goes up and presto the Government rakes in more taxes; a perfect gig for the free spending politicians.

George`s Wooden Teeth
3 years ago

Absolutely Unconstitutional

Stewie the Roof Baby
3 years ago

Absolutely stupid. How does somebody put a value on illiquid assets?

Illinois Entrepreneur
3 years ago

They’ll start with “liquid assets.” Easily defined gains like one’s stock portfolio, mutual funds, hedge fund balances. Once that’s rolling, it just “won’t be enough,” you know. And, as people move money to more opaque investments (fully legally) they will work on ways to go after those next level things like real estate, by putting the onus on taxpayers and businesses to use assessments and/or pay for appraisals. Then the final steps will be private equity funds, VC and other long-term investment plays where they will use the company’s own valuation and your share of it to determine its value… Read more »

Old Joe
3 years ago

Then they’ll move on to your 57 Chevy and that silver dollar grandpa gave you.

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