Stacy Davis Gates defends CTU’s contract demands, asks to shift pension payment debate to City Hall – Chicago Tribune/MSN

Chicago Teachers Union President Stacy Davis Gates holds a collective-bargaining update press conference at CTU headquarters on Jan. 2, 2025. (E. Jason Wambsgans/Chicago Tribune)Davis Gates stressed that the pension payment and potential loan were not her responsibility. “This is not the fifth floor of Chicago City Hall. It’s not,” Davis Gates said.
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Ex Illini
1 year ago

The issues facing the Chicago Public School system are beyond challenging and may be impossible to fix. But no one really is focused on fixing them as far as I know. They are interested on getting paid as much as they can. Show me where Stacy talks about anything but money, money money. Let them go on strike, it won’t change the trajectory of the dismal performance of the CPS system.

Jerry
1 year ago

Instead of focusing on what children “deserve” the focus should be on what teachers’ responsibilities are. Most people have interactions with children and, deservedly, children are a protected minority. Other than parents, relatives and friends, teachers likely have the most contact. Accordingly they have large role to play. There are endless online versions of a teacher’s role and for an urban school attention should be paid to: https://www.edutopia.org/discussion/5-muhammad-ali-quotes-every-teacher-needs-classroom. Few argue that teaching in an urban setting is an easy job. Test scores are not the only metric but persistent low test scores followed by grade advancement are evidence that the… Read more »

James
1 year ago
Reply to  Jerry

Great; fire all of them. But, what results other than empty buildings? There won’t be drove of highly skilled people lining up to replace them. Would you?

The Railroader
1 year ago
Reply to  James

There are already (mostly) empty buildings masquerading as full enrollment schools.

Free at Last
1 year ago
Reply to  James

Are you really claiming that CTU members are highly skilled? If the buildings are empty and the children allowed to go feral, will the educational results be any different than now?

James
1 year ago
Reply to  Free at Last

I make no judgment as professional skills of literally anyone I’ve never met or known in some other less personal, infrequent way. Having a well educated, personable, dedicated teacher is part of the mix required for successful educational outcomes, but other factors exert their influences as well. I listed the key ones some 10-15 minutes ago elsewhere. If you’re all that intrigued you’ll find them easily enough.

Freddy
1 year ago
Reply to  James

Hello James. Let’s say for arguments sake they are all fired but not likely. What are the options? Many people home school and it is growing. Here are some options. https://www.homeschoolof1.com/free-online-homeschool-curriculum/ https://www.k12.com/online-homeschool/ Now look at the cost for private school via the K12 school at most $7K per year vs the estimated CPS at $32K per student if they get all their demands. Students should get every opportunity to learn regardless of where the education comes from (home-private-public). These home school programs like Khan/K12/etc should be tailored to educate both the parent(s) and child together if necessary. Many people from… Read more »

James
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddy

Sure, there are various alternate educational schemes that can be employed, but the key ingredients are a properly educated teacher who can fluently use the student’s language, a student who is relatively interested and engaged by his nature, a set of parents literally all working in a dedicated manner with a set of mutually desirable goals and all of that done in a harmonious way. Subtract anything in that list and things start to unravel sooner than not.

ProzacPlease
1 year ago
Reply to  James

I’m sure you remember a time when education was touted as the way to eradicate the ills of society. It was through education that we could eliminate poverty and the dysfunction that comes from it. Education helped build the melting pot of America. In the late 1800’s and early 1900’s, millions of immigrant children received some education in our schools. They did not have teachers who spoke their native language. They were taught in English. They lived in tenements, not always with attentive parents. Yet they learned, and the literacy rate rose. It’s amazing to hear teachers today say they… Read more »

James
1 year ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

Okay, please tell me when and the reasons it all went went awry somewhat nationally and how to get the whole system back to a widely accepted sense of productivity. I think we can agree it’s not primarily a local problem but a national one. To almost every constituency involved the whole process today on balance probably generally seems tilted more towards enforced incarceration for every person there than education, and I’ve come to that viewpoint as well.

ProzacPlease
1 year ago
Reply to  James

Thumbs up James. That’s how to start fixing it- ask how it went wrong. Recognize that changes must be made, not just “investing” more money into failure.

How did we go from a country that recognized education as the stepping stone to a better society to demanding a better society before we can have education?

I don’t have the answers. But we need to ask the questions. And I’m certain that nothing will change without teachers demanding real change, not just more money.

ProzacPlease
1 year ago
Reply to  James

I really wonder why you speak as if the only alternatives are keep the status quo or fire them all and have no teachers. It sounds like a veiled threat.

James
1 year ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

I didn’t have any veiled threat in mind here and was simply stating what seemed to be the conclusion that writer had in mind.

Free at Last
1 year ago

Why don’t you just cut to the chase and turn over the Chicago treasury to CTU. You know they are going to get it anyway and it would save the article space for something newsworthy.

Hello, Indiana!
1 year ago

“ We demands the money! We won’t repays the money! And we won’t work for the money!” says Gates.

ProzacPlease
1 year ago

Stacy is fighting for a contract that will “reshape the way education is meted out” in Chicago. The teacher administrator for the program that evaluates teachers bemoans the fact that it doesn’t matter how many prom dresses she bought. It’s so unfair.

Where do they find such inspirational leaders?

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