U.S. Census update for Illinois contradicts independent outbound migration analysis – Center Square

Ted Dabrowski, president of the nonprofit Wirepoints, said the latest estimate of a population gain in the state doesn’t make sense. “I think it is going to leave a lot of people confused because the data doesn’t square up with domestic outmigration numbers we see from the IRS. It doesn't square up with U-Haul and other moving companies that show how many people are leaving Illinois."
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Wally
1 year ago

Don’t know where to find it, but the IRS publishes data on how money leaves certain states and goes to other states. It’s based on AGI, adjustable gross income. IL is notorious for losing billions yearly, how much money the people who leave take with them. That is a better indicator of IL problems. Don’t know when it’s published, yearly or what, but should get a lot of public notice and see what Pritzker says.

Wally
1 year ago
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We left IL and took about $3 million in assets like pension, real estate, etc. We have friends who left taking even more. Of course, thanks to Biden, that $3 million is now a lot less, but we’re living in a more tax friendly state where the money will go farther.

Ex Illini
1 year ago

In addition to the IRS data and moving company data, the fact that Illinois real estate continues to appreciate in value at a rate that lags the rest of the country suggests lower demand due to lagging population growth. The revised census data needs to be challenged in court if necessary. If it is correct, that’s a good thing, but it just doesn’t add up at this point, no pun intended.

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  Ex Illini

“The revised census data needs to be challenged in court if necessary.” Why? What relief should the court provide? The official group in charge of counting citizens is saying Illinois was undercounted. The people that think everyone is leaving Illinois will never believe anything different. The reality is that it doesn’t matter if we are up 250k or down 18k. Illinois population has been relatively flat. Illinois is not seeing a massive loss of population where the state will implode but it’s also not growing at a healthy rate. This information surely helps JB with his political message though. Credit… Read more »

debtsor
1 year ago

There’s two possibilities: Biden has politicized every institution in the government to do his bidding and the census is issuing fake numbers. Like our fake inflation figures that no one believes. 8.3% inflation? hahaha yeah right more like 15-20%. Or, those leaving are being replaced by third world legal and illegal immigrants. Maybe our population did go up but the newest residents aren’t countable in teh census. For example, I drove around Rolling Meadows the other day. That used to be a solidly middle class suburb. These days it looks like Guadalajara. The strip mall that a decade ago supported… Read more »

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A statewide concern: Illinois’ population decline outpaces neighboring states – Wirepoints on ABC20 Champaign

“We are not in good shape” Wirepoints’ Ted Dabrowski told ABC 20 Champaign during a segment on Illinois’ latest population losses. Illinois was one of just three states to shrink in the 2010-2020 period and has lost another 300,000 people since then. Ted says things need to change. “It’s too expensive to live here, there aren’t enough good jobs and nobody trusts the government anymore. There’s just other places to go where you can be more satisfied.”

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