In Depth: The Hidden Perils in Illinois Local Police and Fire Pension Plans – WP Original

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Bob
12 years ago

The so-called gold pensions are any thing but that. A few take advantage of loop holes which should be illegal. I my case for a local Chicago suburb I worked 30 years and get 3500 a month. I put in 100000 over the years which average return of about 8.5 a percent per year. Many get about what I do. There was no choice to be in the plan or not.

Anonymous
12 years ago

Thing are not much better for us here in California. Thankfully, the internet is starting to shine a very bright light on these problems and change is beginning to happen across the whole nation. This create momentum. An excellent website to stay on top of all this is pensiontsunami.com.

Justin Case
12 years ago

CA CHING, CA CHING, CA CHING! YEAH, IT MUST BE THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN! My Union Boss down at the Town Hall emailed me yesterday and. Told me that this article was hitting the Papers today, and He told Me. to make it Look like I was Working till this Blows Over in a week. I know the routine! In a week, I’ll be back to my usual activity of. Collecting A Paycheck for Doing Nothing! Hey, Private Sector. Workers; You really gotta Pony Up more Taxes! I need at least a 10 %. raise! My Cabin Cruiser at… Read more »

Tough Love
12 years ago

Taxpayers should contribute NO MORE towards the funding of Public Sector pensions than what THEY typically get from their employers …which is their employer’s Social Security contribution on their behalf and a 3%-5% of pay “match” into a 401K Plan.

To the extent Public Sector Plans require MORE than what Private Sector workers get, either the workers THEMSELVES can pay for it or the Taxpayers should simply renege on those excessive promises.

MelissaR
12 years ago

One more time, why do we have these at all, and not the same choices the public has?

JoshuaR.L.
12 years ago

Aren’t we really saying defined benefit plans are hopelessly murky? Only an actuary can understand what they will cost and the actuaries who review them are conflicted? Mr. Palermo is obviously an unusual village trustee, being a trained financial person who studies the subject, but can we expect that from other local officials?

Anonymous
12 years ago

Very frustrating trying to figure this out for my city, Evanston. I am quite sure we have a bad pension problem and I don’t trust what i have heard about the numbers, because I assume they rig their assumptions as this says. How are we supposed to get to the bottom of this?

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