Tinley Park teachers union may strike Sept. 22 – Illinois Policy

Walking out on students has become a go-to strategy for many affiliates of the Illinois Federation of Teachers and the Illinois Education Association, the two biggest teachers unions in Illinois. Earlier this school year, Valley View Council Local 604, an affiliate of IFT, set a Sept. 18 strike date but reached a tentative agreement before walking out. The Naperville Unit Education Association, an affiliate of IEA, voted to authorize a strike but reached a tentative contract agreement one day later.
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Leaving Soon, just not soon enough
8 months ago

Teachers care about money, benefits and pensions. Education is at the bottom of the list.

James
8 months ago

It varies from person to person and place to place just as it does for every other work site. Contrary to popular opinion one size or description never fits all.

ProzacPlease
8 months ago
Reply to  James

Of course nothing applies 100% to everyone in any group. That doesn’t mean we therefore cannot make observations about a group in general. The social sciences study group behavoir. It’s how we learn about cultures, economics, history.

James
8 months ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

Okay, but that seems to be be case if the argument would have started with “some.” Otherwise the impression is that it’s a universal statement, isn’t it? If the writer meant it to apply in some cases surely he would have stated it so. If you or he deny it I’d have to think you are back-pedaling simply to defend the undefendable.

ProzacPlease
8 months ago
Reply to  James

Every statement must be preceded with the qualifier “some”, even though that’s already understood as I explained? In fact, I believe I have stipulated to that in previous comments to avoid this issue.

Am I defending the indefensible, or are you just being defensive?

James
8 months ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

Hopefully you will agree that any person’s set of acquaintances is limit. Consequently any such person only really has personal knowledge of them to varying degrees. To caste a net over a larger group not even personally known and assuming with that limited knowledge the larger group is the same is not going to instill a lot of confidence when hearing or reading that person’s judgment. Hopefully a person with an open mind would do little of that, realizing his inadequacies. So, to you and to anyone else “shooting from the lip” about people you clearly don’t know personally do… Read more »

ProzacPlease
8 months ago
Reply to  James

James, I’ll wait for you to jump in and object strongly the next time PPF says this is what the voters want. How dare he say that? He doesn’t know all the voters!

I’ll wait, but I won’t be holding my breath

James
8 months ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

You’re right. All he knows is what counts. He need not be so concerned about the rest. Those people need to be the ones that “count” as well or give up thinking the Dems care.

ProzacPlease
8 months ago
Reply to  James

We know what counts too- test scores.

James
8 months ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

Immaterial. The witness is excused.

ProzacPlease
8 months ago
Reply to  James

You are sadly only demonstrating why the schools are in such pathetic shape.

And I’m sure you are one of the good ones, which makes it even more pathetic.

James
8 months ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

Irrelevant. You are now risking detention.

mqyl
8 months ago

As a reference point for negotiating, a teachers’ union in a given district checks overly generous contracts recently received by members in nearby districts. That’s why teacher pay and benefits in Illinois continue to spiral out of control, or at least beyond the increases workers in the private sector get.

Call my shrink
8 months ago

I will NEVER understand how teachers contracts come up during the school term. How about we sign them June 10th to June 10th from now on. They can picket on vacation

James
8 months ago
Reply to  Call my shrink

You’re making way too much sense of it—from an outsider’s point of view. But, what you advocate has no immediate-solution advocacy as part of it whereas it takes on that aura once the school year has started. Timing pressure is part of the process if it’s done well from the strikers’ perspective.

Call my shrink
8 months ago
Reply to  James

Oh I understand. What i can’t figure out is why the contracts ending date isn’t made for June. Automatically give teachers the advantage

PPF
8 months ago
Reply to  Call my shrink

You choose not to understand. I’ll explain it to you but I’m guessing you will continue to choose to NEVER understand. The teachers in Tinley Park District 146 had their contract expire on July 31st. Negotiations for these contracts started months in advance of the expiration. If they don’t reach an agreement by July 31st, they continue to try to negotiate after expiration and before kids are back at school. If both sides harden their position in the negotiation, it will continue as a stalemate through the rest of summer and remain that way until the first day of school.… Read more »

Call my shrink
8 months ago
Reply to  PPF

July 31st. 3 weeks before school starts. June 10th would be 2 months. More time to talk. Less time to strike

PPF
8 months ago
Reply to  Call my shrink

It wouldn’t matter. They don’t wait until the contract expires to start negotiations. They wouldn’t have more time. Maybe you don’t understand because you are refusing to understand?

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