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Heyjude
10 days ago

Of course the CTU “notched a huge victory”. After all, when you own the legislature such victories are to be expected. Otherwise why spend so much money on elections?

The True Believer
10 days ago

Blm and the CTU union will now completely destroy America. We have given up the ship. Tax increase coming but the west and south sides don’t care because they pay nothing.

NB-Chicago
10 days ago

Bargain with who?? A total disregard for Chicago taxpayers/homeowners

The Truth Hurts
10 days ago

Clearly the voters of Illinois want CTU members to have more rights when negotiating their contract. Next up tax increases. The voters have spoken.

heyjude
10 days ago

As many have pointed out, people will generally vote in their own self-interest. The voters have spoken, but maybe the only thing that proves is that there are far too many voters with a self-interest in fleecing the rest of us. The trough expands, and generates more voters for expanding the trough.

The Truth Hurts
10 days ago
Reply to  heyjude

I agree that people vote their self interest. This was on display during the progressive tax amendment vote. Suburban voters that made more money voted heavily against the amendment. Many of these voters also went down their ballot and proceeded to vote for the very democrats that put the amendment on the ballot. Many of these voters, in particular female suburban voters, like the social/cultural message of the Democrat Party but financially they align closer with Republicans. Until the Illinois GOP builds their brand on fiscal sanity they will always be viewed as gun toting religious zealots that hate the… Read more »

debtsor
9 days ago

“Until they build a different brand they will be irrelevant in this state.”

By different brand you mean change their values. Yes, there’s an argument to be made “what is the R values” but I can say for certainty it’s the opposite of the D value.

50% or more of the state refuses to vote R. They always vote Blue no matter Who. Nothing will ever change that.

The Truth Hurts
9 days ago
Reply to  debtsor

I mean that until their brand is focused on fiscal issues. Why do you think people like Ken Griffin use $50 million to fight a constitutional amendment that impacts the state fiscal issues but not the same type of money is given to elect more Republicans. Republicans in the state are disorganized and it’s difficult to state what they stand for or will accomplish once elected. Also, stating that R’s are opposite of the D’s is not a winning message when close to 60% of the state votes D. You need to state your ideas and have more of those… Read more »

debtsor
9 days ago

“Republicans in the state are disorganized and it’s difficult to state what they stand for or will accomplish once elected.” Yes, and gerrymandering. Republicans have no chance of being elected with gerrymandered districts. Madigan’s 2010 gerrymandering was EPIC one of the best (or least democratic) in the history of the US. Republicans were frozen out and have no route back to power. Rauner gave millions to the IL GOP for the 2016 election cycle, when R’s nationally won the senate, house and prez. the IL GOP managed to flip one IL house seat I think. That seat flipped back in… Read more »

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debtsor
9 days ago

“Unfortunately after he was elected his behavior became too much for suburban women to overlook.” Yes, it’s no secret suburban woman hated him but they always did. Hence the Million Pink Hat March in January of 2017. To say that it became too much for them is not the reason he lost. The reason he lost is because of late night vote drops in the middle of the night in swing states that brought Biden over the finish line. Trump likely lost the popular vote But it’s unlikely he lost the swing states without a little bit of help, in… Read more »

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The Truth Hurts
9 days ago
Reply to  debtsor

You keep believing that he won if that makes you feel better. That behavior just adds more issues to the brand. Do you actually believe the nut jobs storming the Capitol moves people closer to Republicans. Obviously you are free to believe whatever you want but my opinion is that it is unhelpful for the brand. The same way BLM doesn’t help the Democrats. The difference is the media wised up and starting downplaying Democrat crazy. Republicans don’t have that luxury.

debtsor
9 days ago

“The same way BLM doesn’t help the Democrats. The difference is the media wised up and starting downplaying Democrat crazy.” What are you talking about. BLM was great for the Democrats. It drives votes out to the ballot box. It got them 80,000,000 presidential votes, more than any in candidate in history, right? BLM raised over a billion dollars just in corporate donations much of which was funneled back to D candidates that adopted the BLM platform. The BLM platform of racial justice and eradicating systemic racism is everywhere, all the time, in every aspect of public and private government.… Read more »

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debtsor
10 days ago

Yes, but only indirectly. The problem is that the democratic process has been severely hijacked the special interest which makes it difficult, if not impossible, to reform the status quo. Mexico is a one-party state that elected PRI for 100 years and finally elected an opposition party, which was literally a once in a 100 year event. That’s kind of where we are now. 100 years of voting Democrat in Chicago has resulted in the mess they’re in today and now it’s become extremely difficult to remove power from the special interests that thrived under Democrat rule. So it’s really… Read more »

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The Truth Hurts
10 days ago
Reply to  debtsor

It hasn’t been hijacked but people in Illinois have moved on from the Republican Party. Rugged individualism doesn’t play well in large cities. Bringing up issues regarding abortion, lgbtq rights and epa standards doesn’t play well to a constituency that expects government to take care of them. When 80% of the students in Chicago qualify for free and reduced lunch, the government/schools become parent figures. When the other guy tells you that he will reduce spending these same voters see that as a reduction to their lifestyle. The voters in Chicago want and prefer their government daddy to take care… Read more »

debtsor
10 days ago

This is not quite right. Not all Democrat voters support giving the CTU more bargaining power. In fact, Lori Lightfoot (who was elected in a landslide of 75% of voters) is totally against this bill. Yet, despite the Chicago mayor being against this bill, and likely many of her voters – the special interest group – the CTU – manages to push the bill through anyway.

The Truth Hurts
9 days ago
Reply to  debtsor

Of course not all of them. Enough of them support it enough either openly or they are indifferent enough to not change the way they vote. Supporting special interest only works when the voters don’t provide any backlash. Always the voters getting what they deserve.

debtsor
9 days ago

Yes, they get what they deserve. I agree with that. But it this doesn’t happen overnight. I happens over generations of Democrat voters. It will take a generation to fix the problems

PinkFloydActuary
10 days ago

I keep wondering how can it get any worse here…and the legislature must just keep taking that as a challenge. Unreal.

Tom Paine's Ghost
10 days ago

This is disgusting. Bust this Union Now.