Commentary: November will decide the fate of economic bailouts in blue states – The Hill

" Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker is asking voters to approve a $3.4 trillion “Fair Tax” amendment to the state constitution. At least it’s going to plug the state’s problems? Far from it. The pressure of pension costs is sucking up the oxygen."
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Eugene on a pay phone
5 years ago

According to what I have read, over 300,000 Cook County alone were negatively affected by the change in deductibility of state income taxes. People with that kind of wealth can afford to move elsewhere.

Daves
5 years ago

Trillion ? $3.4 billion more like it

5 years ago

Suppose you HATE Trump. Suppose you consider yourself a “fiscal conservative but socially liberal”. One reason to hold your nose and vote for Trump is this exact issue. Trump won’t bail out states that are profligate spenders. And, the federal government shouldn’t.

Mike
5 years ago

The Hill article has an error.

If successful the adjustable Illinois state income tax constitutional amendment would initially result in an estimated $3.4 billion in annual state revenue, not $3.4 trillion.

NB-Chicago
5 years ago

Still dont understand, if dems sweep wh & senate (which hate to say is looking very likely) and they’re able to start bailing out illinois pensions either directly or indirectly with heros act and additional legislation, if your a cop or teacher in a Wisconsin whos contributed heavily to your shared risk- 100% funded pension plan how will you feel your being compensated fairly compared to an illinois state/muni pensioner whos contributed next to zero?? Or maybe fair is irrelevant, just use covid/blm & a dullard public to grab all you can get? But this is what Novembers all about

James
5 years ago
Reply to  NB-Chicago

And when, pray tell, has life ever been different? Only youths think life HAS to be fair in every situation. Never has that been the case.

Aaron
5 years ago
Reply to  NB-Chicago

Unlikely. Landslide for republicans in November

NB-Chicago
5 years ago
Reply to  NB-Chicago

Or how do you bail out illinois ridiculous 667+ seperate pensions EQUALLY with fed $ directly or indirectly?? Seem it would be a legal nightmare with one cop pension claiming they didnt get as much fed bailout $ as the pension in the town down the road?

The Truth Hurts
5 years ago
Reply to  NB-Chicago

The money wouldn’t directly benefit any pension fund. Remember that pensioners have no rights to expect a set level of funding only that their pension be paid. Any bailout money that the state received would most likely be spent however they saw fit. Imagine the feds give Illinois a $10 Billion dollar bailout to shore up pensions. A drop in the bucket for the debt but a heavy lift to get from the feds. Let’s say that $10 billion comes with the stipulation that it must be used to fund pension debt. OK, no problem. The state divides up that… Read more »

NB-Chicago
5 years ago

Pelosi’s heros act has $1 trillion slated for state & municiple /no strings attached aid…if illinois is approx 3.8% of us pop, then illinois / madigan machies cut would be $38 billion if distributed on population bases. Sure peanuts of all that fed $ would go to chumps like u & me. Heros act could just be one of many bailouts if dem sweep in nov.

Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  NB-Chicago

Exactly right. Heroes act is obscenely stupid.

The Truth Hurts
5 years ago
Reply to  NB-Chicago

I have no doubt in my mind that bailouts will happen under a dem sweep. I think regardless of what happens some sort of bailout will happen after the election. It’s just depends on the amount. I just don’t believe that money will go towards paying down pensions. I’ve seen Lucy pull that football away from Charlie too many times.

NB-Chicago
5 years ago
Reply to  NB-Chicago

And the machines got to keep papa madigan around to keep all the trough feeders in line and decide who gets what when the the heros act $mother-load$ rolls in

Mike
5 years ago
Reply to  NB-Chicago

There is over $20M in the four PACs in which Michael Madigan is the Chair.

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