‘Defund the Police’ Doesn’t Mean ‘Defund the Police,’ We’re Supposed to Believe – Wirepoints

By: Mark Glennon*

In little more than one astonishing week, the idea of defunding the police went from loony to mainstream. The Minneapolis City Council voted to do just that on Saturday, and it is a top agenda item for Black Lives Matter, which likewise now seems mainstream.

Apologists for the idea and for BLM wasted no time trying to spin the insanity away, getting right to work on Monday. Eric Zorn, for example, a left-leaning columnist for the Chicago Tribune, wrote on Monday that the “de-“ in defund isn’t what it sounds like. It just means a reduction, like in deregulate, devalue or decentralize, he says.

Instead, he says we should take defunding the police to mean things like not having cops tasked with dealing with mental health and drugs, or a less violent approach to public safety, or breaking the code of silence that protects bad officers and getting rid of generous disciplinary procedures in their contracts.

Also on Monday, the Chicago Sun-Times and many other media ran an Associated Press story to the same effect. It says, “Supporters say it isn’t about eliminating police departments or stripping agencies of all of their money. They say it is time for the country to address systemic problems in policing in America and spend more on what communities across the U.S. need, like housing and education.”

Governor JB Pritzker brushed off the question of what “defund the police” means, saying it is just ”a poor use of words to describe what many people really want.”

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot gave a similar though longer reinterpretation of the phrase.

No. Stop making excuses for extremists. They mean what they say. They may want more money for other things, but they expressly want to take it away from policing as we know it.

A few examples:

•  The vote by the Minneapolis City Council was to entirely disband and defund the police department – even CNN characterized it that way.

•  BLM is leading the call for defunding and their Chicago website says, “We demand immediate disinvestment in CPD and a reallocation of the operating funds currently allocated toward policing, which represent 40% of the City’s operating budget and result in $4 million a day spent on policing.” That means no more police department.

•  The national, umbrella BLM website says, “We call for a national defunding of police. We demand investment in our communities and the resources to ensure Black people not only survive, but thrive.” Funding cut from police departments is not to be directed to some re-imagined form of policing but to entirely unrelated programs, according to a BLM co-founder. “What we do need is increased funding for housing, we need increased funding for education, we need increased funding for quality of life of communities who are over-policed and over-surveilled,” she says. Those are not police functions.

•  Same for the ACLU, which supports defunding. Elizabeth Jordan, a staff attorney at ACLU of Illinois says “There’s billions and billions of dollars that are tied up in policing that could be spent on things like the Chicago public school systems, things like increasing our mental health services, increased general health care services, increasing transportation access,” she said. Those, too, are not law enforcement.

Indeed, as an Axios article says, “There’s a vast swath of well-argued writing on the concept of abolishing the police and the closely related concept of prison abolition, and what those ideas might look like in practice.” Look at them. Most are radical notions about eliminating police, not reasonably debatable ideas about policing.

Why are so many trying to spin a different meaning on “defunding the police”? Because they are kneeling – often literally – before the radical mob they helped create. They fear that mob enough that they dare not contradict it, so they are scrambling to try to redefine its demands to something resembling sanity.

*Mark Glennon is founder of Wirepoints.

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Poor Taxpayer
3 years ago

“You Can’t Fix Stupid”
Cops brought this upon themselves.
They have been abusing minorities for many, many, Years.
The Blue Wall has been up forever, they always lie and cover up for others.

Richard Poo Millersky
3 years ago
Reply to  Poor Taxpayer

In some cases, cops should be blamed. In other cases, the suspect should be blamed. ?

Hank Scorpio
3 years ago

These are a list of companies I have compiled so far that are trying to pander by putting a cheesy graphic and message on their website about racism and equality:
 
whole foods
walmart
mcdonalds
target
indeed
microsoft
amazon
marianos
tmobile
intel
bing
godaddy
eddie bauer
johnson & johnson (Band Aid, Tylenol, Neutrogina, +more)
jp morgan (chase)
 
 
 

Last edited 3 years ago by Hank Scorpio
3 years ago

It so amazing that corporate America is OK with empowering socialism, and don’t thing once these commies are in full power, they’re not going to take their companies!

Richard Poo Millersky
3 years ago

In the June 11th Sun-Times, Bobby Rush doesn’t appreciate CPD helping themselves, to his campaign office’s popcorn and coffee. ?

Richard Poo Millersky
3 years ago

Defund the police is explained in:
 
‘West Side clergy lead Sunday march’ article
 
(Explained in last 3 paragraphs)
 
Austin Weekly News
 
June 11, 2020

Mike
3 years ago

“Two young women who asked that their names not be used, carried a sign saying ‘Defund police.’
 
Asked for her definition of the slogan, of the young women visualized a gradual substitution of social workers, EMTs and mental health workers for most situations, and that policing itself should come from within the community.
 
The first steps in reform should be removing militarized gear and weapons from police departments, she said.”
 
http://www.austinweeklynews.com/News/Articles/6-11-2020/West-Side-clergy-lead-Sunday-march-
 

  • Article by Bonni McKeown, published by Growing Community Media, NFP, located in Oak Park.
Herman Young
3 years ago

Dan Rather did a very sound investigative series on the failed Detroit school system. Well worth looking up.
 
Bottom line – the teacher and staff unions elect their friends to sit on the school board. Then they proceed to raid the treasury and hire the relatives. None dare change any of this.
 
Black lives and failed schools don’t matter to them either – they just see this free pot of money getting thrown at them and they say goodie, I’m taking it for myself.

Herman Young
3 years ago

SEIU and the teachers unions declared war on the police unions.
That is what BLM is all about.

3 years ago

Take these examples and tell me what is the common definition, for each.
 
Income inequality.
Black Lives Matter.
Defund the police.
White silence is violence.
Free Speech. 
White Privilege.
Cultural appropriation.
 
I’ll take Free Speech for $100.
Free Speech goes to the person or group that is the loudest. Free Speech 
is not available to anyone wearing a MAGA hat or Trump shirt.
 

3 years ago
Reply to  Mike S

Sorry, I forgot a couple.
 
Global climate change.
Systemic racism.
Student loan forgiveness.

debtsor
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark Glennon

“White Privilege”; “White silence is violence.”   White privilege and systemic racism is allocating guilt to all white people. The mere fact that my skin is white makes me complicit in these ills of society. This is for all practical purposes, collective guilt. Even though I’ve done nothing wrong personally, I am still responsible for the supposedly unjust and racist system.   I hate to bring up the Nazis but this is exactly what they did to the jews. All jews were collectively guilty for all the ills of the Wiemar Republic. The mere fact some one was jewish, even… Read more »

Herman Young
3 years ago
Reply to  Mike S

You are all wrong – this is just internecine warfare between SEIU and the teachers unions against the fat cat police unions. This is a public sector union turf war and their are letting BLM front SEIU, just like SEIU did with Occupy Wall Street. Get woke, folks.

S and P 500
3 years ago

I need to get out my dvd of “Robocop” (1987). That movie foreshadows a lot of what we see today such as the police turning into a more paramilitary type organization, and of course cities running out of money. Maybe the liberals want to disband police depts and hire private firms like OCP to maintain order. Rich celebrities in Beverly Hills are going to hire their own armed guards for sure.

Herman Young
3 years ago
Reply to  S and P 500

Get our your copy of “Occupy Unmasked and you will see the game plan, the same players, the same tactics, and the same slogans. This is a government empllyee union defensive turf war.

s & p 500
3 years ago
Reply to  Herman Young

Thanks for the tip. There is another docu from the same time “Money for Nothing, Inside the Federal Reserve” which is about how the Fed keeps printing money after stock market crashes and now that interest rates are almost zero, the Fed can’t do it anymore. Except it just did so we’ll see how that works out. You don’t need to watch the movie for $3.00, just watch the trailers. Also watch the free 30-min version of “I.O.U.S.A” on you-tube.

Daskoterzar
3 years ago

Interesting how when the idea of “reforming” the police came up, what 2 weeks ago,…everything is possible, reforming operations and budgets MUST be done, pols are falling all over themselves to get involved. But pose the same issue as it relates to a balanced budget, pensions, property taxes, state salaries, etc…crickets. What a crock. Maybe we should riot and burn down our own businesses to get their attention…oh wait… Nevermind…

nixit
3 years ago

Why is it the public’s responsibility to decipher the slogan anyway? I’m not sifting through a dozen PowerPoint slides to get to the nuance you were completely unable to convey in your hashtag fail.

Hank Scorpio
3 years ago

Spot on Mark. Extremism is bad, no matter what side of the political spectrum it is on.
 
Extremists fall into 2 groups: they are either looking for power/money/revenge, or they simply lack adequate brain cells, making them as useful as a hat rack (or ‘useful idiots’ as they are colloquially called).
 
Don’t forget all these companies coming out in support of these movements. My boycott list is growing by the second.

Chase Gioberti
3 years ago
Reply to  Hank Scorpio

Extremism in defense of liberty is not a vice.

Hank Scorpio
3 years ago
Reply to  Chase Gioberti

The problem with that statement is that the definition of liberty is subjective — everyone has their own idea of what it should mean, as well as what qualifies as a violation.

Chase Gioberti
3 years ago
Reply to  Hank Scorpio

What makes the definition of liberty subjective? Maybe idiots have their own idea of what it means. It’s a pretty straightforward definition. We haven’t had it in this country for a long, long time.
 

Hank Scorpio
3 years ago
Reply to  Chase Gioberti

Can you elaborate? Maybe give me the exact definition of liberty and provide the date when it disappeared?

Illinois Entrepreneur
3 years ago

For those who haven’t guessed, I’m very conservative. I agree 100% with this column.   The one issue that I think might be better handled differently, however, is drugs. I don’t think that police battering doors down and shooting panicked people in the middle of the night is good policy. I also think that after trying a strict and harsh drug policy for decades, it isn’t working. Most crimes have victims, but drug use by itself does not have a victim outside of one’s self. In that case, rehabilitation strikes me as a better policy. There are many European countries… Read more »

debtsor
3 years ago

“Most crimes have victims, but drug use by itself does not have a victim outside of one’s self.”
 
Except for the extraordinary bloody supply chain leading back through the street corner killings, the gangs that control the corners, the cartels that supply them, the cartels that war against each other for territory, and the corrupt Narco State that is Mexico, which is one of the primary causes of poverty and illegal immigration to the United States. Other than that, drug use has no victims.

The Truth Hurts
3 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

All of your issues are the result of drugs being illegal not the drugs themselves. We spend way too much money enforcing drug laws when the demand for drugs will ensure that a market exists. Not too many gangs on the street corner is selling Advil or antibiotics.

debtsor
3 years ago

No one is getting high off advil or amoxicillin. But they are selling the opioid of choice – heroin – for those that started off popping Schedule I Vicodins and Oxys. These pain killers are ‘legal’ and they are still devastating communities as people still sell them illegally.
 
Heroin, cocaine, methamphetamines are awful drugs that must be banned. The one good thing the Taliban did was destroy the heroin trade. Hard drugs must stopped at every level. No one is a casual meth or heroin user.

Richard Poo Millersky
3 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

The best way not to become addicted to meth, heroin and cocaine is to never try them. ?

Hank Scorpio
3 years ago

I agree. I do believe there needs to be some kind of reform with respect to police policies and procedures — many of them can be overly aggressive hard asses. You need that type of person to deal with the hardest criminals but not when it comes to petty crimes and traffic violations. Here are my additional thoughts:   ON POLICE AUTHORITY: I am against the “search-and-seizure” or “stop-and-frisk” power police have — they should not have that power simply on the basis that they have a gut hunch. If the perp is carrying a small bag of coke, just… Read more »

debtsor
3 years ago
Reply to  Hank Scorpio

On Police authority: Petty quality of life issues, like bums defecating in the streets, degenerates passing counterfeit bills, drug addicts carrying cocaine, these all add up for city residents who are quite frankly, sick of it all. Of all the reasons I left Chicago after 20 years of my adult life living there (and there are many) the straw that broke the camels back were the dozens of garage burglaries a week in my neighborhood, that the police couldn’t stop or care to do anything about. Every neighbor had this problem of miscreants coming onto their properties and breaking into… Read more »

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Fed up neighbor
3 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

Absolutely correct, I left Chicago (Garfield Ridge neighborhood)back in 2000 and built a home in the southwest suburbs. Code enforcement does not put up with any crap, police dept fire dept all very professional, polite etc. Mayor nd his staff have done a absolutely wonderful job with are village, low crime, low gang activity pretty much nonexistent. Ya property taxes are high but that’s another story, myself and my wife of 34 years have absolutely no regrets. Chicago is a sh-t show and always will be.

Richard Poo Millersky
3 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

Great points. ???
 
Can police stop crime? They can’t, unless they’re are already around, when crime is occurring. ☹️?

bagelgirl
3 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

I would have set up a sting operation in the garage!

Herman Young
3 years ago

The curious refusal to talk about drugs in the black communities and the Speedball that would have killed George Floyd anyway, makes BLM totally bogus.

Spike
3 years ago

Decentralization of power in Chicago is the solution:   Remove the Police, Fire departments, EMT services and schools from the control of the city and mayor’s office and put that control into the hands of the “neighborhoods” i.e. residents of any given area of Chicago, via their Aldermen.   I know, I know; most if not all current aldermen have issues, but the area residents who vote for their aldermen would have more incentive to elect, in the future, someone who alines with their vision regarding the makeup of their own; police force, fire department, EMT and school system.  … Read more »

ConcernedExpat
3 years ago
Reply to  Spike

The issue with this is crime does happen everywhere regardless of the zip code – it just happens more or less in some places. We can debate on the cause or correlation of that. You don’t think criminals, knowing there are less police resources in a a neighborhood wouldn’t exploit that? The thought of disgraced alderman Ed Burke controlling police resources, should give anyone pause.

Spike
3 years ago
Reply to  ConcernedExpat

ConcernedExpat,   I see you addressed four issues, so here are the answers:   The individuals that live in a area/neighborhood decide what level of police (and thus crime) they want to have / are willing to tolerate.   Believed cause or correlation of what has happened in the past can be used as a basis, looking forwards, and by placing the control of neighborhood services closer to those that are impacted by it, residents can create solutions for their individual neighborhoods. Example: After school programs, youth basket ball leagues, teen counseling, more police, whatever, it is up to them… Read more »

bagelgirl
3 years ago
Reply to  Spike

Interesting, but doesn’t Chicago have 50 wards?

Illinois Entrepreneur
3 years ago
Reply to  Spike

Your idea has an interesting academic premise. But, I want to ask, would the alderman have control over those local resources, or just control over the funding of those local resources?
 
I assume the control and administration of schools would stay centralized, but the community would get to decide how many schools it has, and the quality, correct?
 
It’s very interesting. Like you, I lean libertarian, but in recent years I’m more Republican. I am always in favor of more freedom than less.

Spike
3 years ago

Illinois Entrepreneur,   I’m not in favor of giving the alderman the actual dollar (resources). I’m in favor of the alderman having control of the tax bill required earmark of the dollars (resources).   Example simplified: School, building, teachers, transport, future pension obligations, etc… 100k yr divided by 20 residents = $5000. -I know the numbers are much much larger- This $5000 is on your tax bill for the schools and that money goes into a trust fund held at the aldermanic level to be used by the school to pay for their services.   Neighborhood schools answer to the… Read more »

Illinois Entrepreneur
3 years ago
Reply to  Spike

One big problem: CTU.
 
They’ll never agree to any competitive model, or any sort of performance feedback system, especially with the public involved. Accountability is not a word they want to hear.
 
In fact, the public system of education, fire, police is almost entirely held back from reforms and progress by the unions in those respective areas.
 
Until they’re broken up or declawed, nothing will happen.

Spike
3 years ago

Illinois Entrepreneur,   Agreed, but they already have a competitive model, look at the population of Illinois and many areas of Chicago over the last several years. People are mobile.   I prefer bottom up reforms as opposed to a top down order and the suggestion I made, of a way to reform the city, fit that style.   As you said earlier, it is just an academic exercise, mainly because the majority of citizens of Chicago are sheep and vote the way they are told to and don’t hold political class accountable for their actions.   I didn’t think… Read more »

bagelgirl
3 years ago
Reply to  Spike

There are too many aldermen in Chicago and it would lead to disparate treatment in different wards.

ConcernedExpat
3 years ago

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-full-truth-about-race-and-policing-11591744223?mod=hp_opin_pos_1
 
It is a disgrace that our elected leaders in Chicago have allowed us to become the laughing stock of U.S. Others in the country rightfully point out that with the backdrop of calls to “Defund the police”, Chicago witnessed quite possibly one the bloodiest days in history.

Spike
3 years ago
Reply to  ConcernedExpat

ConcernedExpat,
Well, Chicago has been under, almost, 100% Democratic control since 1932.
The residents of Chicago collectively created the system they are currently enjoying.
-So there is that-

ConcernedExpat
3 years ago

Just like flatten the curve didn’t actually mean flatten the curve! Just know if a democrats lips are moving, they’re lying!

Rich6 Poo Millersky
3 years ago

Yes indeed, BLM and other extremists want the police gone, at least in the US, if not globally. Who doesn’t know or understand that? ☹️?

Once they receive their wish, they’ll complain about looted businesses, like LaShawn Ford and Michael Phleger did. ☹️???

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