Editorial: Are legislators really serious about examining pension issues? – Champaign News-Gazette

"Legislators, according to news reports, reportedly will be making some proposals to consider during the brief fall veto session. That wouldn’t provide much time to examine what would have to be complicated proposals. Indeed, it might open the door to another rush to judgment that leaves too little time and too few people with a full understanding of what’s on the table."
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fed up neighbor
2 years ago

No, that’s like saying there serious about reducing property taxes, never ever gonna happen in corruption land of Illinois.

Frank Goudy
2 years ago

Go after police, Judges and Legislators pensions. Even after changes in 2010 they are still significanlty higher than your regular state employee. Of course, that won’t be done.

susan
2 years ago

The dirty little secret nobody mentions is early retirement entitlements with pensionspiked contractial obligations (after 10-20 years) which dwarf. 30-years-worked social security payouts.

Nurses don’t get that. If it is financially supportable, there is no doubt that nurses would all sign up for similar deal from Illinois:
work10-20 years to age 58, pay ZERO withholding tax i(instead of mandatory 6.2%) into social security, and collect 200%+ of social security entitlements forever with 3% minimum annual COLA.

Pensions Paid First
2 years ago
Reply to  susan

Nurses can get pensions just like anyone else that wants to work for the state. Just go apply online with the Illinois Department of Health.

You don't pay dues
2 years ago

Of course not. There is nothing to examine with existing pensions. They are contracts. They cannot be impaired, changed, diminished or lessened. Period full stop. Like it or hate it, it is contract law. And, if your broke little prairie town can’t pay for it, too bad. Fire the librarian, fire the dog catcher, pay my pension. Still can’t pay, fire the fireman and the cop. Pay me. The unions will not budge, you don’t pay dues. At the state level, your elected criminal representative can only hope for a federal bailout, its the only option. BJ and team actually… Read more »

Poor Taxpayer
2 years ago

Contracts are made to be broken. Courts then rule on them. Let the Federal courts get involved and see the new decisions come out.

PT Bombast
2 years ago

There are numerous unsustainable commitments (and corresponding expectations) in the USA and elsewhere. Social security, water supply, insurance of shoreline property, infrastructure, French pensions. African agriculture. Many of these are due to fanciful economics over decades, uninformed voters and politicians who covet power above constituent welfare.

When we reap the whirlwind, most of us will have a claim to reparations or some other type of government repair of its past sins. People will be living then a day or a week at a time. Pensions will drop to the bottom of the list of problems.

Goodgulf Greyteeth
2 years ago

We have a fiscal system that really can’t put the money into funding this (pension) ramp without either a tax increase, a relatively significant one, and/or cutting spending on services, neither of which are sort of the best outcomes for taxpayers,” Ralph Martire, executive director of the Center for Tax and Budget Accountability, recently told a state House committee.”

Yep. Good ‘ol Ralph. Except that “relatively significant” aren’t the two words I’d use to describe the size of the pension tax increase required.

‘Pyrrhic’ and ‘pestilential’ come to mind…..

Old Joe
2 years ago

State ending…

Truth Seeker
2 years ago

My best guess is no – because the Unions are lining their pockets. I believe that many of these same individuals also receive pensions, so in essence the system is rigged. Would like to think that I am wrong.

Da Judge
2 years ago
Reply to  Truth Seeker

TS,

IMO its a massive RACKET hoisted on Illinois taxpayers by da Dems and their masters da public sector unions.

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