Illinois to sell $850 million of bonds as investors brace for junk status – St. Louis Post-Dispatch

Earlier this month, a Citi research report said Illinois is “almost guaranteed” a credit rating downgrade to junk if a constitutional amendment to replace its flat income tax rate with graduated rates fails to pass on Nov. 3.
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Sir Tom of Northfield
5 years ago

When dealing with Illinois one should be more concerned with the return OF his money than the return ON his money. When I started in the municipal bond business Illinois was a very solid Aaa credit, as it should be. Democrats have destroyed (!!) Illinois with their unique blend of corruption and incompetence. Governor Slobbo is a disgrace, but he has plenty of company in Springfield.

Poor Taxpayer
5 years ago

Selling out the unborn generations of Illinois.
Got to love Illinois.

Only a complete fool would buy any debt of Illinois. It is never going to be paid back.
Illinois is BROKE OR SHOULD I SAY BROKEN.

Juicy Smollier
5 years ago
Reply to  Poor Taxpayer

Good, whoever bought the bonds loses it, then. Stupid decision. Whenever IL or Chicago can somehow dupe people into giving them money, the pensioners should immediately give thanks to God. Oh wait, they by and large couldn’t care less about Him. Ok, wait for the carnage.

Last edited 5 years ago by Juicy Smollier
Poor Taxpayer
5 years ago
Reply to  Juicy Smollier

Wrong to steal money no matter who it is from.
If they pay the debt it will be stealing money from the next generation.
If the default, the are stealing money from Pension funds and the Federal government (tax write offs).
There is NO FREE LUNCH.
The public always pays one way or another.

Freddy
5 years ago
Reply to  Juicy Smollier

If I’m not mistaken certain bondholders are protected by getting up to 90% of future sales tax revenue for up to 40 years in the event of bankruptcy or implied bankruptcy of a municipality. This even trumps pensioners. This was put in the last minute by Madigan according to Jeanne Ives in the Implementation bill. So in essence certain bondholders are playing with a stacked deck with minimum risk at the expense of others. So who would lend money to someone who is bankrupt without repayment guarantees. Mark would know more about this than I do. Mark please correct me… Read more »

Admin
5 years ago
Reply to  Freddy

I believe you are thinking of the securitized bond structure that Chicago and some other municipalities have used, whereby they transfer ownership of future sales tax income. It has not been done by the state, though some future sales tax income it gets is encumbered, though I am not sure how much.

The Truth Hurts
5 years ago

Don’t worry, Illinois will raise the flat tax to 5.95% and that will appease the credit rating agencies. They don’t care how or from who they get their money. They just want to know that the politicians have the determination to raise the necessary taxes. These threats only help these politicians. Now they can blame the “lies” told by the No to fair tax group as well as ratings agencies. This threat is gift to democrats. “We had no choice because of the lies told during the campaign. We will propose the fair tax amendment again with a larger tax… Read more »

Juicy Smollier
5 years ago

So you believe the amendment will not pass? I agree, but it’ll be somewhat close. And I predict 6.5%, but you could be right. I’ll be leaving the state, so who cares.

The Truth Hurts
5 years ago
Reply to  Juicy Smollier

Not sure if it will pass but I don’t think it matters long term as they will eventually get it. My gut tells me that enough retirees that may vote democrat are scared about the possibility of paying income tax on their SS and retirement income and they will kill the amendment.

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