Ted joined Tom Miller on the WJPF Morning Newswatch to talk about Illinois’ population losses in 2022, why our neighbors are growing and the details of domestic migration and what it tells us about Americans’ policy preferences.
Read more from Wirepoints:
- The Great Re-Sort: New, National Survey Indicates Political Migration Will Soar
- Thirty years of pain: Illinoisans suffer as property tax bills grow far faster than household incomes, home values
- Red states Texas, Florida crush blue New York, California and Illinois when it comes to 2022 population growth – A Wirepoints 50-state survey
- New 2022 Census data: Illinois’ population down another 104,000, nation’s 3rd-worst drop
- DeSantis’s Florida blows away entire country in competition for people and their wealth
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If this bill passes, say goodbye to local control over all Illinois parks and expect to see open drug and alcohol use, needles, no sanitation and fire hazards, but no ordinary park users.
Ladies and gentlemen, you are about to behold a sight so strange, so horrifying, so utterly monstrous, that I urge those that are easily frightened or upset, who suffer from nervous disorders, weak hearts, or queasy stomachs, who experience nightmares, and any children under the age of 16 to forgo witnessing this exhibit. If you dare, look unto the debt that the state and cities hold. The state is spending more than they bring in. If we don’t cut our spending this monster will continue to consume more tax revenue. Oh the horror. We call this our spelunking into misery… Read more »
I calculated that Bowmanville property taxes paid are now doubling every 9 years.
Look at Macomb IL. Property taxes and then look at the actual jobs or lack there of in the town
Pathetic!
Illinois democrats want more tax dollars for less law and order, less good schools, less hope for the future
Yep and those Democrats get out and vote.
Follow the money, it is mostly going to cover a HUGE pensions deficit. No private sector firm would even think of giving aways such generous pensions at such young ages, NONE. The greed of the public sector worker has DESTROYED the quality of life for a honest working man and his family. All for them and none for you is the government worker attitude. There is a HUGE pension time bomb going off right now and has to be paid for generations to come. As more people FLEE Illinois the remaining people will have to pay even more. This is… Read more »
Public sector employee, not worker. They don’t know what work is. All of them are overpaid, overweight, over the hill underworked donut eating, knuckle dragging, gum popping lazy bums who spend the first 4 hours of the day figuring where they’re going for lunch and the last 4 hours talking about where they ate.
over the hill??? maybe they can negotiate for an earlier retirement date. give you spelunkers more to complain about. lol
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Ted says he is staying in Illinois. He thinks it is a fantastic state with horrible politics. He’s half right.
Sort of like saying, “I like him even if he is a serial killer”.
I’m an escapee from Chicago and live about 100 miles northwest of the city. Nice area, 1 acre lots, good neighbors yet close to anything I need. Hardware store, library, Walmart, Menards, restaurants, bars etc all within 10 minutes. Deer, turkeys, foxes regularly in my yard. No streetlights so I’m always late coming home, yet if I turn left from our subdivision it’s just farms and fields. Lots of friends and great recreational opportunities. We would find it hard to leave.
Except your local school boards are filled with communists, your libraries are filled with pedos, your city hall is filled with activists, your strip mall has cannabis shops and abortion clinics, your taxes are insanely high, and all your local politics are a by product of Springfield/Chicago.
Other than that, it’s great!
Not so much, strong conservative area, library is very nice with no bums loitering and local cops would not hesitate to toss them out, schools still have Native American names to the chagrin of a few, but attempts to change names has been dismissed by school board members, lots of gun owners, TV stations even report the race of criminals. Cannabis is available pretty far from our house in an industrial area and no nearby abortion clinics. Any local bar always has a TV tuned to Fox News and Pritzger Sucks signs were everywhere. Our county was part of the… Read more »
I live in one of the few, tiny purplish areas (it’s practically down to specific neighborhoods now) still remaining in crook county. Which county do you live in, if you’re willing to disclose? OK if you don’t want to, just wondering. It just seems to me that the progressive filth has been expanding. Not even McHenry County is safe anymore from the progressives.
Winnebago County, Rockford area. Republican county board chairman, Republican states attorney, Sheriff, Chief Judge, R majority on the county board, local township mostly R. Sheriff patrol drives down the street and it’s a big event as the “usual suspects are not really around. Snow plows are out early clearing the roads asap. Our road commissioner is a former Navy Seal and a hard core conservative. Cheap gas is 10 minutes away in Wisconsin. I’m not in the city, out in the country, rural, conservative. Left the city almost 25yrs ago born and raised on the northwest side, 6 corners Portage… Read more »
Why not just move 10 minutes over the border?
State income taxes on all retirement income would equal the real estate taxes we pay in Illinois.There’s nowhere that you can go where the taxes and assorted expenses change things a lot. Save 1K overall maybe. Florida 3/4 times home insurance costs. 3/4 times auto insurance, 3/4 times health insurance etc. Other states have personal property taxes plus higher costs as above. Taxes everywhere as the politicians, want to take the lint from your pocket. Again, nice location but go almost anywhere and the cost savings aren’t much.
Yes, that’s the mentality of many of us IL retirees: the high PTs are totally or somewhat offset by not having our retirement income taxed. That’s what’s keeping many of us from relocating out-of-state. I feel sorry for the private sector workers who don’t have that offset.
Private sector workers have the same offset. Their pensions (if they have them) and IRA 401k withdrawals are not taxed. If that ever changes then you’ll see more people leaving, especially people like Paul that live near the border.
Perhaps you meant you feel bad for non-retirees?
A not insignificant number of retirees would leave the state if they started taxing retirement income. Think of the incredibly large number of homes that would go up for sale decades earlier than they otherwise would. The supply of homes in suburban areas with lots of old folks would shoot up, making homes affordable for all of our foreign born low income residents. And getting rid of native born Republican voting “legacy residents” would be a positive for the Illinois Democrat party. What better way to turn a district blue than to drive out the current residents! I fully expect… Read more »
That’s correct George, all retirees in Illinois pay no state income taxes on all retirement benefits.
Yes, that’s why I said “private sector workers.” Until they retire, they get hammered with IL state income taxes and very high PTs, as well as an assortment of other high taxes and fees. You know, the chumbolones.
Public sector workers also pay income tax and high property taxes. Public or private, there is no difference.
One HUGE DIFFERNCE. Lazy worthless government workers get paid more money (from taxpayers) than a private sector worker. Also, they get HUGE PENSIONS at young ages paid for by the private sector worker. I personally have paid lots and lots of taxes and have collected nothing even if you count the nonexistent public services.
Save $1,000 and not live in a progressive hellhole? Seems like win/win to me! I haven’t left yet but I do intend to leave, the first reason is that the real estate bubble in other places is completely insane. Not gonna bankrupt my finances just to get out. Secondly, I’m at the stage in my life where leaving is most difficult: a child in school and a job which is not easily transferable to another local without great effort, and success is not guaranteed. However, the day will come soon when the housing bubble has burst, and I’m not tied… Read more »
Oh yeah, cause it’s just that easy….
In Illinois, the ultra-liberal agenda will eventually assimilate your town. Until then, appreciate your pocket of conservatism.