Springfield doesn’t seem to know the scope of its ‘Tier 2’ pension problem. How about we find out? – Wirepoints cited in the Chicago Tribune

The Chicago Tribune Editorial Board cited Wirepoints’ research into the IRS’ “Safe Harbor” issue and how it could impact Illinois’ Tier 2 pensions. Like Wirepoints, the board says lawmakers need to learn far more about the IRS rules before passing any legislation.

Read: Springfield doesn’t seem to know the scope of its ‘Tier 2’ pension problem. How about we find out?

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Frank Goudy
1 year ago

The CT article sums it up. We need to know the TRUTH. If there is a problem it must be addressed or further legal challenges will make it even more expensive to solve. If it is not a problem then it can be laid to rest and we can forget about it.

Leaving Soon, just not soon enough
1 year ago

The “Problem” is the taxpayers Problem, not Springfields. Just expect higher and higher taxes. Pensions are paid out for 30 plus years with 3% increase every year. Pensions are NOT TAXED in Illinois.

P.T. Bombast
1 year ago

There is a 24 page “guidance” on these safe harbor rules found at: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-tege/public_employers_outreach_guide.pdf In 1980, the SSA issued guidance found at: https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v80n3/v80n3p1.html. Trump agencies (IRA & SSA) are probably the last places to go for rulings on the current situation, which might have been advisable in earlier years. However, forcing local bankruptcies and enabling state bankruptcies might sound attractive to Trump and Musk and soften up the public for curtailment of federal entitlements. Just think: it could all be blamed on Dem states like IL and NJ. To be sure, the theoretical problem gets bigger as time goes by… Read more »

Frank Goudy
1 year ago
Reply to  P.T. Bombast

You have written an intelligent response.

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