The CDC and others are finally admitting to what Wirepoints said all along: It’s the elderly and comorbid who die. COVID policies should focus on them – Wirepoints joins Chicago’s Morning Answer on AM 560

Wirepoints President Ted Dabrowski joined hosts Dan Proft and Amy Jacobson on AM560 Chicago’s Morning Answer to discuss the latest news on COVID in Illinois and around the nation. It seems the CDC and others are finally admitting to the COVID facts that Wirepoints has talked about for two years now: that its the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions that are at most risk from COVID.

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Fred K
2 years ago

Death is your metric? Significant illness and hospitalizations don’t matter?

debtsor
2 years ago
Reply to  Fred K

Significant illness (ie moderate to severe cases that do not result in death) and hospitalizations are largely a result of ill-advised policy to provide early treatment only to high risk patients. As a result, the hospitals fill up with slightly less healthy but vaccinated, or healthy but unvaxxed individuals. Then the hospitals systems say “our hospitals are filled with young and healthy and not-up-to-date vaccinated individuals”! Please get up to date vaccinations! Maybe, just maybe, if you had tried one of the half a dozen other drugs used around the world as early treatment, they could prevent hospital admissions BUT… Read more »

Freddy
2 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

There are so many natural antivirals it’s mind boggling. Early treatment and prevention are the key. Early treatments when administered too late have a much more difficult time to help the patient. Then main stream media discredits the treatment as misinformation or flat out it doesn’t work. Like a study I read where they gave the patient one dose of 5,000 iu’s of Vitamin D and said it did not work. Here is a list of antivirals for most viral diseases. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8147851/ Go down to 4.1 for corona virus and 5 for discussion and conclusion. How many of these plant… Read more »

Freddy
2 years ago
Reply to  Freddy

debtsor Here are some common easy to get antivirals
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/antiviral-herbs

debtsor
2 years ago
Reply to  Freddy

No offense but early treatment covid-19 with garlic, vitamin D, oregano and dandelion won’t reduce the severity of a novel genetically modified bat virus. There are pharmaceutical drugs that may help COVID-19 and the medical establishment is only NOW getting around to admitting that early treatment is needed because the covid shot is only partially effective: https://scitechdaily.com/repurposing-a-familiar-drug-for-covid-19-may-cut-severe-infection-reduce-risk-of-dying/ “Disulfiram, a treatment for alcoholism, may cut severe SARS-CoV-2 infection, reduce likelihood of dying from COVID-19.” * * * * * In the retrospective study, published recently in PLOS ONE, patients taking disulfiram for alcoholism were less likely to become infected with SARS-CoV-2,… Read more »

debtsor
2 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/treatments-for-covid-19 This article is a few days old. It’s nonsense. Harvard again encourages lots of rest, water and pain medicine for patients sick with CV but not hospitalized. There’s a bunch of medicines drs will give AFTER a patient is admitted to the hospital; and there are no outpatient medicines a dr can give to recover at home during early treatment. Years of affirmative action, legacy admissions and progressive group think has infected and utterly corrupted, like a cancer, every institution in America, to the point that every medical decision is political. They designed it this way: Take your vaccine… Read more »

Rob M
2 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

Why haven’t the Patriot Republicans and Trumpsters pushed for some of these treatments to be more widely available? Rand Paul grandstands and is making money going after Fauci, but has no policy proposals to improve care, in fact, they want to give less care to those who cannot afford it. Trump would have sailed to re-election had he actually lead in Covid instead of denying it and not pushing for common sense policies. Not that the Democrats have been much better. They’ve wasted a ton of money, and testing isn’t what it should be and the treatments as you’ve mentioned… Read more »

Freddy
2 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

No offense taken-Good link.Thanks Garlic-oregano/Vit D/etc if taken on a regular basis helps builds a stronger immune system so that it’s possible to avert getting the virus in the first place. No guarantee but it’s likely you would get a mild case. Here is some info on Vitamin D if your level is 50 or greater and the chances of getting Covid seems to be close to zero but more studies are needed. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8541492/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8509048/ In my opinion most people in the hospital with Covid right now are severely deficient in Vit D by that I mean levels less than… Read more »

debtsor
2 years ago
Reply to  Freddy

There is open discussion regarding whether low D3 is caused by the infection or if deficiency negatively affects immune defense. More study is needed but Vitamin D seems to be just one part of much larger complicated equation. Covid does all kind of stuff from elevating liver levels, messing up kidneys, causes heart problems, lung problems, raises glucose levels, it also causes misshappen red blood cells, release of protein into the urine and blood. It’s pretty messed up. EVen in mild cases it still messes with people bloodwork. We’re dealing with a genetically modified bat virus that no human has… Read more »

Freddy
2 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

There is a reason I have been saying that the severity of Covid may be linked to medications that people take for comorbidities that deplete the body of essential nutrients the body needs. Do you remember the Diamond Princess cruise ship? The ship was quarantined on Jan 20,2020 with the outbreak. There was a couple who was interviewed well into the quarantine confined to their stateroom and the husband was sick as a dog and she had little or no symptoms. The answer to why some became sick and others did not was right in front of our eyes. What… Read more »

debtsor
2 years ago
Reply to  Freddy

That’s an interesting perspective and I never really thought about it. Maybe the drugs the elderly are taking affect the death rates. It wouldn’t be that difficult to figure out. Elderly people were dying all over the world especially in Iran, Russia and Italy, and the elderly there possibly have lower medication rates than the elderly here. A retrospective international study could be done to determine if populations with higher elderly pharma usage leads to higher mortality.

fred k
2 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

Joe Rogan, is that you?

debtsor
2 years ago
Reply to  fred k

Hhaha I wish. In the fall, I have a relative who was at high risk of severe illness, with multiple comorbidities including age, weight, heart and diabetes; she caught it and was really going downhill on day 2 – trouble breathing, pneumonia and everything. The ER sent her to an outpatient clinic and got her antibody shots. It takes a few days to start working but it did, and by day 7, which is the start of the danger zone (days 7-10 when most patients admitted to hospital), she was well on her way to recovery, and recovered just fine.… Read more »

Rob M
2 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

It’s profit over people. JFK even said in the 60’s that he wasn’t sure he was even running the country. The donors run things. You should kn9w this. Your patron Saint Donnie Dbag so botched Covid that he lost. Despite all the hate spewed by the corrupt legacy media. Had he led, he likely would have won, and the Democrats would never have 50 Senators. Biden hasn’t expanded treatment, that is correct. He’s not running the nation, but if you think Donnie dbag was running the show, you’re sorely mistaken. It’s a combination of the deep state, the oligarchs, and… Read more »

debtsor
2 years ago
Reply to  Rob M

I mostly agree with what you except that I subscribe to the adage that when someone speaks their mind and tells you what they are going to do, you should listen to what they say. And Twitter is the place where the blue checks with power freely pontificate their innermost thoughts while on the toilet or waiting in line at the grocery store. And they truly hate conservatives. They make it abundantly clear they would put you into work camps for reeducation if they had the power to do so. This is not an exaggeration. This includes the donors you… Read more »

Freddy
2 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

I would like to add one more essential nutrient that is depleted by medications. Melatonin. Melatonin levels naturally decrease as we age so the elderly have lower levels thus another reason they have more severe cases than kids do. There is a long list of meds that further decrease levels. Notice that ibuprofen and prednisone are on the list.
https://www.stlukes-stl.com/health-content/medicine/33/000712.htm
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8395320/

Mark
2 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

I had covid in Dec. 2019 before anyone knew anything. After 3 weeks of being sick I told my wife I had to go to the hospital,she said no,put me on saline breathing treatments,and gave me drugs,mostly vitamins. I was fine in a week,should have taken her advice sooner,but I’m one of those nothings going to hurt me type guys.

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