The Real Estate Nightmare Unfolding in Downtown St. Louis – Wall Street Journal

"Cities such as San Francisco and Chicago are trying to save their downtown office districtsfrom spiraling into a doom loop....  St. Louis is already trapped in one. This is the future for America’s downtowns if they can’t reinvent themselves and halt the downward spiral."
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Jared
1 year ago

This original article does not show the entire picture, and is very misleading in places. Please take a look at this article:
https://sway.cloud.microsoft/nNbQZedRBHSRlehO?ref=Link

Last edited 1 year ago by Jared
Leaving Soon, just not soon enough
1 year ago

Texas does not have this issue. Florida is doing a booming business.
What are the Democrats doing wrong?

Leaving Soon, just not soon enough
1 year ago
Reply to  Mark Glennon

The communists also believe in censorship.
It is your ball and bat, so you have all say.
The US constitution believes in free speech.

Building of new offices is Miami is booming.
Ex Illinois Ken Griffin is building huge offices and contributing Millions of dollars to the local economy. Illinois chase him away.
You can fit 4 or 5 states the Size of Illinois in Texas.

Rhiannon
1 year ago

UN Agenda 2020-30—-planned take down of America if no one stops it.

Streeterville
1 year ago

Converting LaSalle Street corridor into a Section-8 style “affordable housing” development site is a sure way to accelerate “doom loop” for The Loop. This is probably the most shortsighted City Hall decision, with exception of Parking Meter debacle. Clearly demonstrates that there’s been no sensible (or ethical) municipal finance advisors within Mayor’s Office, and City Council members mostly greenlight whatever is proposed no matter how blatantly stupid.

debtsor
1 year ago
Reply to  Streeterville

The acceleration of the doom loop is 100% intentional

JackBolly
1 year ago

The article was not accurate – start blaming the Soros backed DA and elected officials – there you will find the root of nearly every problem in the city.

GM
1 year ago

It’s happening all over. The Dept of Health and Human Services told hundreds of employees in San Fran to work from home because the area surrounding the building is home to open air drug markets and runaway crime, brought on by stupid city councils that decided soft on crime is the way forward. Add to that the exodus from the cities and companies shutting down retail operations due to losses, and it’s not a surprise. A family owned hardware store in San Fran lost $700K in a year due to shoplifting. You can bet the family wasn’t pulling in $700K… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by GM
debtsor
1 year ago

The lesson is that in urban centers, criminality fills the void, and its difficult to undo.

GM
1 year ago
Reply to  debtsor

Yup.just look at Baltimore, or Philadelphia, both have regressed to “Third World” status à la Johannesburg… downtown Chicago will surely follow if great change is not initiated soon…

Last edited 1 year ago by GM
Wyatt Earp
1 year ago
Reply to  GM

Sad to say it is already to late for downtown Chicago, the scales have tipped.

debtsor
1 year ago
Reply to  Wyatt Earp

This past week, I’ve talked to several people who go downtown 3-4 days a week and they say that Tue-Thursday the loop is busy, safe and seemingly back to normal, with many western loops buildings having 75% occupancy rates. But Monday and Fridays are quiet and slow. Lots of vacant store front because, just as a hotel cannot survive financial renting only 60% of its rooms, a store can’t survive with foot traffic only 60% of the workweek. The questions is where does this go long term. Will firms renew their leases downtown or move to the suburbs? Those that… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by debtsor
Riverbender
1 year ago

No real mention of crime and corruption in the article as well as situations a former ousted caused by a former prosecuting attorney that wouldn’t prosecute. No mention of being another failing Democrat party run city either. The term “reinventing” based upon my experiences means just more government money thrown at the problems that provide a temporary photo op band aid that covers the real problems. Crime, corruption and Democrats…nothing more needs said.

Da Judge
1 year ago
Reply to  Riverbender

Well said Riverbender.

WSJ article mostly focused on the real estate issues.

STL has been in a doom loop for the past 50 years IMO.

mqyl
1 year ago
Reply to  Riverbender

You can add words like “revitalize,” “rejuvenate,” and “reimagine,” too. Those words also make it sound like something better is going to happen; however, many times, it just ends up being large-scale abuse of taxpayer money.

That’s what happens when you have leaders who are unskilled, unknowledgeable, greedy, or corrupt. In the worst case, they have all four attributes. Remember when we had leaders in Chicago and Illinois who were only greedy and corrupt, and we complained? We didn’t know how good we had it! For some of the leaders we have today, you couldn’t put worse people in charge.

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