Flying Blind: How Bad COVID Data Leads to Government Making Bad COVID Decisions – The Dialogue: Episode 5

Join Wirepoints President Ted Dabrowski, Founder Mark Glennon and Analyst John Klingner on the fifth episode of Wirepoints podcast: The Dialogue. They discuss how bad COVID data is leading to bad decisions managing the pandemic.

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Admin
4 years ago

Oregon state Sens. Kim Thatcher and Dennis Linthicum have petitioned Acting U.S. Attorney Scott E. Asphaug to launch a grand jury investigation into the measurement of COVID-19 statistics by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA): https://www.theepochtimes.com/oregon-senators-call-for-investigation-into-alleged-covid-19-statistical-manipulation_4044333.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge

susan
4 years ago

I recently went to a pharmacy to personally pay for a COVID19 serology antibody test. I paid with my own money. I asked for a privacy policy. This caused confusion. Was told I needed to contact corporate. Just talked to corporate on a phone call. Sent the following “As you know” email to document my own recollection of what just happened on that phone call: Thank you for your time, in a phone call to relate to me the following information: Your Privacy Policy is dated 2015, and has not changed. You told me that by law you are required… Read more »

I'm no Senator's Son
4 years ago

This was all a planned event.
Think not?
Go back to run with the Sheep.

Susan
4 years ago

Just got voluntary, self-pay antibody serology test; positive for Igg, Igm.

Had moderate/severe Covid in May 2020.

Israel would issue me a Green Pass, in America I would lose my medical professional job.

susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

verbal report: pos antibodies
test results online: pos IgG, neg IgM

now requesting details: sharing of personal data relative to privacy policy.

Fauci Fraud
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Both Israel and the US are wrong.

People are not guilty until proven innocent.

We are not property of the state.

Our rights come from God not from man.

susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Fauci Fraud

rights are like trees falling in a forest, with nobody there to hear if they made a noise when they fell

Admin
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Somebody from Germany told me “nobody gets vaccinated there who already had COVID. Why would anybody do that?”

I'm no Senator's Son
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark Glennon

And Israel VAXXED their entire nation and held them down and persecuted them as if they were pre-1940 Germany. Hmmmmmm. Makes a guy wonder if history isn’t repeating itself. So, Pfizer is found to be under 50% effective in Israel and the masses getting Covid19 there are all…..wait for it……..VAXXED!!!!!

Manfred Downstate
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Yes, it sounds like the Israeli Ministry of Health would issue you a Green Pass based on Covid recovery, but it would only be good for six months. It sounds like you would still have to get the vaccine after recovery or lose your pass six months after recovery. (And the vaccine pass per se is only good for six months.) The program appears to be set up for the vaccine and then a booster every six months. Or maybe you can get Covid again and recover and then reclaim your Green Pass? Covid Certificate and Green Pass Eligibility Green… Read more »

Susan
4 years ago

Here’s the point:
The only reason to get a vaccine is to develop antibodies.
Which is ‘safer’, a room full of people with positive serology tests, or a room full of vaccinated people?
Should those who are vaccinated but have lower immune responses (and do not test positive for antibodies) perhaps be fired?
Is the government deliberately exposing the population to greater infection risk by mandated vaccinations rather than mandated serology testing?

Freddy
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Here’s a thought to ponder. This is for people who will not get the vaccine. Would you get a blood transfusion from a vaccinated person? And how would you know if they were vaccinated? Remember decades ago that they said you could not gets aids from a blood transfusion only thru sex.

Wilmette
4 years ago
Reply to  Freddy

The answer from me is “hell no”

Manfred Downstate
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

I take your questions as largely rhetorical, and my answer to the first is likely the same as yours. Also, if we’re going to privilege someone, let’s privilege those who’ve had Covid and recovered, not those who’ve taken a significantly “leaky” vaccine. To the second, my answer doesn’t matter because the mandates aren’t about how effective someone’s vaccine was, they’re about coercing the uptake of the vaccines. As for the third question, the government should mandate neither vaccinations nor serology testing. (In my comment, I was just pointing out that “green pass” schemes certainly do not provide participants with a… Read more »

Joey Zamboni
4 years ago

My wife works for a large hospital chain, they recently put out a request to their employees, that those that had covid & recovered (obviously) would they donate blood for use in anti-body treatments…

They are tacitly admitting natural immunity is the strongest & most desirable, which has been true since the days of Adam & Eve…

susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Joey Zamboni

This is the rationale behind “monoclonal antibodies”; an approximation of natural immunity products, considered to be very effective treatment.

Joey Zamboni
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Correct me if I’m wrong please…

But I understand it, that a large volume of antibodies in your blood is indicative of an active infection, yes…?

And that it’s more important to have B & T cells, that act like 911 & send the troops (antibodies) to fight off an infection…?

susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Joey Zamboni

No, Igg is indicative of prior exposure

susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Joey Zamboni

Yes to B and T cells

susan
4 years ago
Reply to  susan

…which is why HIV patients’ T-cell count used to be such an important indicator.

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