By: Mark Glennon*
Unless you want your blood to boil, do not watch the video from last week of supporters of a bill to amend Illinois’ Health Care Right of Conscience Act (HCRCA). Dishonesty, despotism and undisguised ignorance were on full display in a move to assure compliance with vaccine and other COVID mandates.
Passed in 1977, HCRCA has been a point of distinction in which Illinois can take pride. It prohibits discrimination against anybody who chooses not to receive any particular form of health care services that are contrary to his or her conscience.
Predictably, HCRCA is being used by those who are at risk of losing their jobs because of their opposition to COVID vax mandates, and action in the courts has been going their way. Several Illinois courts have provided temporary relief against the mandates pending full hearings and appeals.
That makes Gov. JB Pritzker and his allies in the General Assembly unhappy. They want mandate resisters punished. HCRCA is getting in the way of that, so they want it amended.
They turned to Rep. Robyn Gabel (D-Evanston) to carry their bill, which she sponsored, to strip the right to object to COVID vax mandates under HCRCA.
Big mistake.
Gabel is personification of that confluence of dishonesty, despotism and undisguised ignorance, which we have documented before in the stories linked below. Some other supporters were guilty of some of the same in how they defended the bill.
To fully appreciate how bad their performance was, you really need to watch at least part of the video linked here of the House debate, particularly Gabel’s answers to questions. It’s readily apparent that she has no interest in honestly describing her bill, and no understanding of what existing law says, where the science on COVID stands and how legislative and judicial processes work.
If you can’t watch the video, here are a few highlights:
The first and most obvious question came from Rep. Adam Neimberg (R-Tuetopolis), who asks what recourse would remain, if the bill becomes law, for those whose consciences say no vax.
But Gabel can’t even provide her own answer on that. She turns to an aide for an answer, as she does repeatedly throughout the hearing, and ends up simply re-reading something from her opening statement, which does not answer the question.
Watch how often she needs help even on the simplest questions, and she often seems unable to repeat what her aid tells her in an intelligible fashion.
Gabel repeatedly says her bill “merely clarifies the well-established intent of the original law.”
What? How does a legislature clarify the intent of a legislature from decades earlier? It can’t. The original intent is what it is. The purpose of the amendment is obviously to change the law. It’s just that it’s supporters don’t have the courage to say that directly. In fact Gabel expressly says the bill is not changing existing law. Of course it is.
Far more importantly, legislative intent means nothing when a law’s words are clear. And both a federal court and state court have said that the relevant parts of HCRCA are clear, leaving nothing to intent. Rep. Deanne Mazzochi (R-Westmont) addressed that directly with Gabel starting at about the 19.00 mark. Gabel says she has no knowledge of that.
HCRCA was intended, Gabel says, only to be about abortion, contraceptives and the like. Everybody knows that now “with certainty.” And the law is being “intentionally distorted” so people can “thumb their noses” at the vax, she says. Anybody who claims otherwise is engaging in the spread of misinformation, she says.
No, there is nothing in HCRCA limiting it to abortion and other family planning matters. The law is what the courts say it is, not what Gabel or anybody else wants, and the courts have said it means what it says.
It says, in essence, that it is unlawful to discriminate in any manner because of somebody’s conscientious refusal to participate in any way in any particular form of health care services contrary to his or her conscience. The full text of the relevant portion is reproduced below.
Gabel says at one point, in questioning from Mazzochi, that HCRCA is not supposed to apply to vax mandates because the vax is “not in a healthcare setting.” That’s just too preposterous to warrant a response.
Gabel says repeatedly that federal remedies remain, and her bill expressly says they do. That’s just show. Of course they do. The problem is that the federal law is far more restrictive and difficult to use, which is why the Pritzker Administration has targeted the Illinois law.
At about the 50.00 mark, Rep. Keith Wheeler (R-North Aurora) asks about the amendment being worded so broadly that any mandate could be imposed by an employer, no matter how extreme, unfounded or irrational, still leaving the employee with no recourse.
Gabel says that’s not an issue because there is no disagreement about proper steps to mitigate COVID.
Is she entirely unaware of the intense debate going on among medical experts and the huge differences across nations in the mitigations they decided will work? Among those open issues are mask mandates, whether those with prior infection need vaccination, who needs boosters, whether children need vaccinations and much, much more. How completely uninformed must one be to be oblivious to those open issues?
Most importantly, those issues include the growing evidence and scientific opinion that vaccinated people spread the virus about as much as the unvaccinated, which destroys the rationale for mandates.
As for the current courts ruling in favor of those objecting to mask mandates, that’s just “a few courts bastardizing” the intent of the bill, Gabel says. The same charge was made by at least one other bill supporter on the tape. I suspect that won’t help them in those cases, which are ongoing.
Most fundamentally, Gabel repeatedly says her amendment does not take away any right. That’s fundamentally dishonest because, as of now, people do have a right to use HCRCA respecting COVID and vaccines for it. We do not yet know what courts will ultimately say about that right, but Gabel is simply wishing away a right that is for the courts to further define.
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All is not lost.
First, though the bill has now passed both the House and Senate, enough lawmakers in both parties voted against it to bar immediate effect. That means the effective date will be June 1, 2022.
Second, gamesmanship by the sponsors may backfire on them. The bill initially included examples of what punishments would be permissible for those who refused vax and other COVID mandates. Those examples included terminating employment and excluding individuals from a school or a place of employment. But those examples were later deleted as a cosmetic attempt to make the bill look more palatable. It’s conceivable that the deletion would be interpreted to mean that those actions are not permissible under bill as finalized.
Finally, and most importantly, step back and look beyond the conduct of Illinois lawmakers and the details of their wording. Principles far more important are at issue. Listen to recent words of Christine Anderson, a German member of the European Parliament.
You may not agree with her decision not to be vaccinated or her views on that. I am among the vaccinated. But this is about the rights of those who choose otherwise, and Anderson’s broader message is timeless. A video of her is here. These were among her comments:
Always question everything any government does or does not do. Always look for ulterior motives. And always ask cui bono?, who benefits?
Whenever a political elite pushes an agenda this hard, and resort to extortion and manipulation to get their way, you can almost always be sure your benefit is definitely not what they had at heart.
As far as I’m concerned, I will not be vaccinated with anything that has not been properly vetted and tested and has shown no sound scientific evidence that the benefits outweigh the disease itself in possible long-term side effects, which to this day we don’t know anything about.
I will not be reduced to a mere guinea pig by getting vaccinated with an experimental drug, and I will most assuredly not get vaccinated because my government tells me to and promises, in return, I will be granted freedom.
Let’s be clear about one thing: No one grants me freedom for I am a free person.
So, I dare the European Commission and the German government: Throw me in jail, lock me up and throw away the key for all I care. But you will never be able to coerce me into being vaccinated if I, the free citizen that I am, choose not to be vaccinated.
*Mark Glennon is founder of Wirepoints.
Text of relevant portion of HCRCA:
45 ILCS 70/5) (from Ch. 111 1/2, par. 5305)
Sec. 5. Discrimination. It shall be unlawful for any person, public or private institution, or public official to discriminate against any person in any manner, including but not limited to, licensing, hiring, promotion, transfer, staff appointment, hospital, managed care entity, or any other privileges, because of such person’s conscientious refusal to receive, obtain, accept, perform, assist, counsel, suggest, recommend, refer or participate in any way in any particular form of health care services contrary to his or her conscience.
(Source: P.A. 90-246, eff. 1-1-98.)
Other Wirepoints columns about Rep. Robyn Gabel:
- Legislators’ ‘Town Hall’ Becomes Metaphor For Failing Illinois
- A Particularly Dishonest ‘Town Hall’ Meeting on Budget With IL Rep. Robyn Gabel
- The Sound of Silence: Smug progressives, Madigan and harassment – Quicktake
- Crony Capitalism’s Latest Scheme for Illinois is Green
- Two of Illinois’ most fiscally reckless and dishonest lawmakers push resolution on federal spending priorities
- Other States Balk at Multibillion Dollar Cost While Illinois Spends Blindly on Energy Alternatives
A Mandate is not a law. A mandate from one man, no matter how powerful or wealthy that man is is not a controlling factor for anyone’s life. When one man rules with an iron fist for 20 months and proves he is no genius, never divulges who his “scientists” are who he uses for his immense mental prowess and rewards health department leaders in our state who hire retired or defunct cops to brow beat our local restaurants into submission to close their places of business and destroy family income and wealth I listen NOT to that man. This… Read more »
>>HCRCA was intended, Gabel says, only to be about abortion, contraceptives and the like. Everybody knows that now “with certainty.”
Yes, it’s a well-known fact that the USA was not insane when the law was originally written, so of course it was never intended to encourage spread of viruses.
It’s like saying that “thou shall not kill” was not intended to be about switching off drones. Objectively, it wasn’t. And if at some point in the future, “kill” comes to mean switching off a drone, “thou shall not kill” can’t be used as an argument against switching off drones.
Mandates based on unreliable clinical research, per the peer reviewed British Medical Journal https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_term=hootsuite&utm_content=sme&utm_campaign=usage
politics aside, this is very bad writing
XXXFYBSXXfft!
As acknowledged, both vaccinated and unvaccinated can contract, spread, die of, or survive COVID.
BUT, the unvaccinated are being subjected to the inconvenience and cost of regular testing; vaccinated are not.
Where’s the sense in that?
This is an inquisition and a heretic hunt. Same twisted psychology, different scenery.
Even the CDC now admits that natural immunity from prior infection is as good as vax immunity. Here is their piece released Friday which most of the press is ignoring. So, again, there is no rationale for not treating those with natural immunity the same as those who are vaxxed. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/vaccine-induced-immunity.html#anchor_1635539757101
How about there’s no reason to treat anybody differently, period and we let everybody choose their own path free from discrimination?
The CDC’s rationale is buried in the summary:
At this time, there is no FDA-authorized or approved test that providers or the public can use to reliably determine whether a person is protected from infection.
There’s no way to test for natural immunity so they refused to acknowledge it as an option.
Yes all about division and control masks and testing that makes no logical sense. If the vaccinated can spread the virus why are they exempt from testing to keep their jobs, while unvaxed mandated to test? When an unvaxed person gets Covid they are genuinely sick and not going anywhere, but when a vaxed person gets Covid they might just think its a bad day and go to work spreading it. For this reason it is actually more logical to mandate testing for the vaxxed! I was at Midway and everyone at the big hallway bar was sitting elbow to… Read more »
The mask thing is about subservience, nothing more. Masks are for show only. You won’t see any photos of bat lady in WIV wearing only a homemade smiley face mask. They wear full body hazmat suits. Saw a good video a few days ago of the summit in Glasgow where immediately after the photo op all on stage removed their masks. If you were born to be subjugated, wear a mask. Otherwise, move to Texas. When did the test for the delta variant come out? I must have missed the news that day. And why, after over 18 months, has… Read more »
“Your immune system has been primed for a cytokine storm if you’ve had the jab.”
If that’s the case, wouldn’t you expect to see worse outcomes for vaccinated people than for unvaccinated people?
When something is not true, accepted practice suggests that it is false.
When something is the opposite of being true, what is it?
Only time will tell if Bob Out of Here is right – and that’s the crux of the argument: no one knows the long term effects of the vaccines, and now they’re pushing it on kids?!?
The manufacturers are thrilled as profitable drug trials continue on an unsuspecting public. Companies aren’t liable for bad outcomes and get to gather data as they collect cash for the vaccine.
We are on a slippery slope and losing ground.
The mandates are about control – nothing more, nothing less. The despots that have implemented the mandates can’t allow themselves to bend on any mandate issue (such as allowing people to be tested if they don’t want the vaccine) because that would mean that the people have “won”, to a degree. These idiots want TOTAL control and if they “negotiate” or bend to the populace they have “lost”. They can’t “give in” now or they won’t be able to control the populace on the next issue and their entire New World Order agenda won’t be easily implemented, at least in… Read more »
I’m not going to view all the videos and read all the comments because at this point I’m wore out by the entire issue. But its my understanding the main reason Illinois legislature is attempting to rewrite HCRCA is COVID LAWSUITS!! I can tell you at the small company I work at the owners are scarred to death of getting sued. I read Covid lawsuit restriction laws JB signed back in April have been overturned in federal court and the lawsuits against nursing home, etc are continuing. I realize for our public sector heroes covid lawsuits involving public sec heroes… Read more »
NB, that’s a very important point. The fear of lawsuits is real. However, if that was their concern they could have easily addressed it directly. For example, they could have expressly removed or limited monetary claims on vax issues. Monetary claims are allowed under HCRCA as originally written, and that could have been changed or narrowed. If the concern was, as you mention, that any ridiculous employee claim could be asserted, then tighten it up. Better yet, they could have more broadly addressed business owners’ concerns, which they have never done, by taking a comprehensive look at some form of… Read more »
The legislature knows they’re not convincing holdouts to get vaxxed. They know they’re not changing anyone’s mind. Their sole intent is to make life miserable for anyone who fights back against the regime’s mandates. They believe the unvaxxed are trump voting typhoid mary’s. They want you gone from the state. Conservatives and their antiquated belief system have no place in this state. Just read the comments on Ca P F a x, they are very clear about how they feel about you. Sometimes your state goes full blown communist and you must leave. Our country is full of immigrants who… Read more »
Mark-good reply. I’m not a lawyer so I’m not sure what safe harbor immunity is? But anyway, the bigger question I was trying to get at, not just about potential covid lawsuits, is— If HCRCA is not limited to its single original subject of abortion and reproductive employee rights but instead can be applied to any health issue an employee many claim to believe in, then If your a business owner does accommodating individual employees HCRCA rights/ beliefs (related to covid or seemingly an infinite number of other issues) take precedence over a business owners right to run his/hers business… Read more »
I am not sure we disagree. I agree with you about the bad consequences that could ensue if HCRCA is allowed to be interpreted as broadly as you fear. If that happens, or is happening now, it should be fixed by narrowing. Those broader questions were not intended to be addressed by the new amendment. Maybe they should be. We may disagree as to vax mandates specifically, That gets to the very simple, fundamental question: Should private or public entities be allowed to enforce a COVID vax mandate? Some states allow it and some states specifically have outlawed it. I… Read more »
It would seem another gigantic issue is insurance? If HCRCA laws are changed or not how would that effect insurance rates for businesses?
Another thought. If FOP, for example, is succesful filing grievance and collectively barganing covid mandates terms for its members, and if HCRCA remains unchanged, would FOP members still have right to challange covid mandates because an individuals HCRCA rights would take precedece over union contracts?
All the while drug manufacturers don’t have any concerns about suits – ‘Emergency Use Authorization’ protects them.
I’d be interested in finding out how much profit politicians are making on vaccines and testing – might explain a lot.
Right. They have the clout to to get immunity from liability right off the bat. But businesses caught in the crossfire, facing lawsuits from both sides regardless of what they do or don’t do, are out of luck.
??– I thought kwame and all the other states attorneys won gigantic lawsuits against Purdue pharma and other opioid producers? Which im all for
Here are the names of the speakers, and links to their speeches, during the Illinois State House floor debate of House Floor Amendment 3 (HFA 3) to Senate Bill 1169 (SB 1169) in the 102nd Illinois General Assembly (ILGA) on October 27, 2021. All are Republican State Representatives with the exception of Robyn Gabel, a Democrat State Representative from Evanston (Cook County) and one of the sponsors of SB 1169. Deanne Mazzochi (Westmont, DuPage County) – https://youtu.be/qFQ74HG45z8?t=61 Adam Niemerg (Teutopolis, Effingham County) – https://youtu.be/qFQ74HG45z8?t=462 Bob Morgan (Highwood, Lake County) – https://youtu.be/qFQ74HG45z8?t=679 Dan Ugaste (St. Charles, Kane & DuPage County) –… Read more »
Get over it sheep,the covid monster not gonna get you,where are the men in this country?-im scared of covid!
Tell these morons watch some college football maybe the World Series jam packed no mask nobody dead. No mystery.
Putting a boot on someones neck doesn’t usually end well for Fascists like Gable. She appears to be nothing more than a puppet though. This issue is that hill folks are willing to die on. Is she?
Rhetorically speaking, the communists have already taken the hill. They’ve taken the entire front. The reality is she believes you will die on this hill because she’s actively rooting for you to catch covid-19 and die. Our side was defeated long ago. Luckily we are mostly surrounded by red states for hundreds of miles in either direction (yes, WI is a red state, fraud makes it a blue state). It’s time for tactical retreat, and use our voting power to make red states redder.
Listening to some of the final arguments that night, I was particularly sickened by whoever said “…your liberties ends at my nose…” or something to that effect. I don’t know who said it but it had my blood boiling, for sure.
Again, all this nonsense is predicted on the 100% MYTH that the vaxx protects those around you. It’s completely false. At best requires interpretation, which is a poor measure of passing law and all these silly mandates.
All based on a myth. We all need to come together regardless of views and rally against this garbage.
Gabel is actively disseminating misinformation. She’s using the lie as an excuse to get you fired from your job, deny your children admission to schools, and ruin your life. She wants you to sell your house and move to a different state. Because she hates you. She’d throw the unvaccinated in camps if she had the power to do so. But the only power she has is to make your life miserable to force you to leave the state.
What qualifications do legislators need to be elected? Other than the ability to garner support and votes, nada.
Ms. Gabel is a sterling example of this fact.
The Nurenberg Code consists of the following elements Voluntary consent is essential The results of any experiment must be for the greater good of society Human experiments should be based on previous animal experimentation Experiments should be conducted by avoiding physical/mental suffering and injury No experiments should be conducted if it is believed to cause death/disability The risks should never exceed the benefits Adequate facilities should be used to protect subjects Experiments should be conducted only by qualified scientists Subjects should be able to end their participation at any time The scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the… Read more »
Well said it’s hard believe there may be some morons that could even listen to these legislators/crooks
Meanwhile, Iowa just passed a law assuring unemployment benefits for anybody who gets fired because they refused a vax mandate: https://www.theepochtimes.com/new-iowa-law-guarantees-unemployment-benefit-for-workers-fired-over-vaccine-mandate_4078183.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge
Last week SCOTUS ruled for the state of Maine in denying a religious exemption. This is the State saying your body belongs to them. If they can force a medication into you, that you either do not want or need using ‘the greater good’ as justification then nothing is off limits.
SCOTUS denied immediate, emergency relief, but the Maine case continues on.
Apparently our right of conscience can be diminished and impaired, unlike…
The reasons to leave Illinois go way beyond financial – Illinois is being governed by fascists now.
Fascists or communists? Seriously, it’s a good question about how to describe today’s far left. In the case of Gabel, I would go with Maoist.
This view from the late conservative writer Gary Allen helped me understand why the political class promote socialism or communism: “If one understands that socialism is not a share- the-wealth program, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs… Communism, or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite.” It seems that almost every member of our state and federal legislature is a… Read more »
if this is communism then nationalize Blackrock, vanguard, the gates foundation, the rockefeller foundation, the soros and his foundations, take their funds and end the covid fascist coup today and use their ill gotten gains to pay for the damage they caused with their “pandemic”.
As brandon would say “c’mon man” this is the fourth reich complete with eugenics and emergency rule.
the country was overthrown, we are living under fascist emergency rule with no way out if people don’t stop complying…
I agree 100%, but the huge corporations you mention will never be nationalized because those very same people are in a position to prohibit it. So sad for the rest of us!
Dale, I would say fascist for now because, for the most part, they are not nationalizing assets and are in fact BFFs with many big corporations. But I suspect they would evolve to communism if they stay in power and grow. Their appetite is just too voracious. They might not actually seize anything but between taxation and regulation, they would pretty much take over many corporations and private assets if they could.
Incorrect to include Vanguard. It was set up by John Bogle to be owned by the customers, and that is precisely referred to as a “Mutual Company”, designed so that people with small savings can invest in the stock market at EXTREMELY LOW COST. There are tens or hundreds of thousands of small investors getting their start in the world of investing. By the way, the corporate bond funds are incredible too—- with bond interest rates low at 3% to 4%, it is of paramount importance to have low annual fees of 0.1%.
You’re welcome.
Totalitarianism, which is about as anti-Constitution as you can get. What is wrong with people in Illinois? Tax and spend and grifting is one thing, but stepping all over the Constitution is another. I just cannot role over for that.
Well I left Facebook a year ago to not have my blood boiled every day. This video just reminded me of why I totally deleted myself from Facebook! Its starting folks. What gets me is even companies are doing it. My two son in laws and their families are not vaxxed, neither is my wife and I, neither are my daughter in laws and my son, neither are the aunts/uncles of my daughter in law (her granny had 12 kids), nor are any of the kids anywhere vaccinated. Their employers have said to many of them that they must vaccinate… Read more »
The vax is a blunt and quite ineffective tool at stopping the pandemic. But 18 months into this quagmire, liberal and authoritarian governments have collectively decided to go all in on this solution to make it look like they are doing something. Conservative and freedom loving governments around the world have generally rejected vaccine mandates and have roughly comparable outcomes to authoritarian measures.
A question for you Mark. Why do you feel obligated to point out your personal vax status, not just here but in other instances where you cite critics of the vax? What does that add to the story? I note that other columnists/commentators do the same.
Benicia, that’s a great question, and I have been on the fence about doing it. On the one hand, it should not matter what I or anybody else thinks about the vax when it comes to the issue of mandates. I get that. On the other hand, it’s clear that much of the public sees things in black or white and draws wrong conclusions. They wrongly lump everybody into two sides — pro-vax and anti-vax, often drawing extreme conclusions based on that. Some of our readers here have done so here. It’s my view, at least for now, that there… Read more »
I agree with Mark. I also believe it only helps the conversation to sometimes be upfront with personal info. I’m older than Mark (by 8 days), and got the 2 jabs, and might get the Pfizer booster — not yet sure. Vaccines for people 10,20,30,40 years younger than I, have increasing costs vs benefits, which are not yet quantified, and perhaps may not be quantifiable due to other variables. Vaccines can cause bad outcomes (heart trouble, etc), and generally, very healthy 30-yr olds don’t really need the vaccine. But a 30-yr old obese, heavy smoker, with poorly functioning lungs, should… Read more »
Steve- While I am comfortable with my decision to get the jab, I should add that I am extremely upset about my two college-aged kids. They got vax early on, and had no choice with their schools. We were led to believe early that getting the vax protected other people by reducing spread and reducing the number of people in whom variants could mutate. It now seems almost certainly that both of those claims were bullshit, and I am damn mad about it.
Pro-vax vs anti-vax is the wrong framing, Mark. That debate has been happening for decades with respect to actual immunity conferring vaccines (dead or degraded viruses cultured in chicken eggs). What many of us are trying to get people to understand and accept is that this is not that traditional debate. These injections are not the injections of old. The science is not the science of old. The virus doesn’t not exist because of something born in the natural world. It was created by man. Created by people with very bad intentions. The same people telling you to take the… Read more »
Yes, pro or anti is the wrong framing. BTW, respecting your name, great new piece in Newsweek: Newsweek.How Fauci Fooled America | Opinion.Unfortunately, Dr. Fauci got major epidemiology and public health questions wrong. Reality and scientific studies have now caught up with him..3 hours ago
Pro vax – anti vax, its all just pablum…
*Informed consent* is the true issue…
I don’t believe the vaccinators obtained *informed consent* from most if not all the vaccinated…
To much pressure & obfuscation for my liking…
Gracious Mark, that IS a GREAT article…rare, from Newsweak!
😂. -Steve
we could reframe by saying immune vs. non-immune
Americans SHOULD be separated into 4 overlapping camps: YES, NO, NOT YES, and NOT NO.
Rather, those-who-benefit use tactics which force only 2 available categories: YES or NO.
Ad hominem/strawman diversion tactics are the preferred tool of tribal dog whistlers who gain personal benefits by trying to force the public (for whom they have drippingly obvious condescension and contempt) into either YES or NO.
I think confirming your vaccination status helps people see this isn’t just a vax/anti-vax argument. Being able to acknowledge that you are vaxxed yet see the lunacy and hypocrisy in the vax crowd helps balance the perspective.
She’s from Evanston, need I say more.
And my wonderful rep too…just sickening
You get what you pay for (vote for), as the saying goes. Keep voting for these politicians, some of whom are dumber than a box of rocks and here in Buttcrack, formerly Illinois, we have truckloads of rocks. VOTE THE DEMOCRATS OUT!
Yes, China got its money’s worth
It’s a mystery why they don’t just repeal the law entirely. They still permit an exception for “abortion, contraceptives and the like” which seems anathema to current abortion law that celebrates the murdering of preborn babies. Abortion is life affirming healthcare, right? Especially now with the Texas abortion law, I’m genuinely shocked they didn’t repeal the HCRCA entirely. “Perform that abortion or lose your medical license, bigot!”
Its only a matter of time before the state decides you have had too many white babies and you need to abort any future children you’re planning on having
They’ll give you a choice: Pay the tax or get a government subsidized abortion.
Great work, Wirepoints. But this poor display is only a continuation of their campaign of mass deception and dishonesty. As other commenters have stated, you’re only compliant (jabbed) until you’re not compliant. To be sure, they will tell you when you’re no longer compliant. They lied about the lethality of the virus to drive fear into the population. Tens of millions bought in to the lie enough to have themselves injected with an experimental substance that does things to the human body that have never been done in the history of medicine or science. When that wasn’t enough they began… Read more »
Yes it is a battle of good vs evil. We are in a spiritual war.
FASCISTS!!!! THE COUNTRY WAS OVERTHROWN IN AN AMBUSH COUP ON MARCH 11, 2020!!!
WAKE UP!!!
EMERGENCY RULE IS FASCISM!!!!
BILLIONAIRES AND THIER CORPORATIONS CONTROLING GOVERNMENT IS NOT COMMUNISM!!!!
THE FINAL SOLUTION DEATH SHOT IS EUGEINCS AND SLAVERY!!!!!
I thought everyone would learn by now that ALL CAPS is rude.
I don’t know if you have seen this. I posted this at the Covid thread.
https://rumble.com/vmq5gu-flashback-dec-2009-jesse-ventura-vaccines-and-depopulation-have-always-been.html
This was aired in Dec 2009. The interesting info (quite prophetic) starts at minute 28 about vaccines/upcoming pandemic/reducing world population. Even if you are not into conspiracies this was 10 years before Covid and H1N1 may have been a trial run. Curious on your thoughts.
No, the vaccine is not about reducing world populations. And if this mRNA vaccine was about reducing world population, it’s an absolute failure. Governments are using extremely blunt and only partially effective tool – a pre-treatment therapeutic with short-term efficacy – to stop a pandemic killing off old and obese people. The vax isn’t killing off people in great numbers but it does seem to cause serious adverse effects in young people. I know that conspiracy theories these days often turn out to be proven true, but this conspiracy theory seems to be untrue…
Disagree on the dangers of the experimental vax- significant complications for some, injury, and death. The fact it’s not truely a vax makes it more disturbing given proven therapeutic therapies.
plus no one knows the long term effects- no one
There are dangers to the vax, yes, and each person need to weigh the risk. But the vax is just a therapeutic according to the commonly accepted definition. A decent one a reducing serious cases but has risk. Our leaders and the medical community is lying to you when they say the vaccines are safe and have no risk. ______________________________________ The other issue few outside the medical community talk about is that there is NO out-patient standard of care for covid-19. Either you suffer at home drinking hot tea and taking tylenol, or, you get admitted to the hospital and… Read more »
Your username gives away your trolling.
Ivermectin, some of your comments are way over the top. Not sure if you are a troll. You are going on the moderation dog house list now.