Chicago’s weak luxury real estate market goes beyond Ken Griffin – Wirepoints

By Ted Dabrowski and John Klingner

Chicago’s top-dollar real estate market is taking a beating. That’s the news from a new Wall Street Journal article detailing the extent to which wealthy Chicagoans are taking big losses on their city properties. Billionaire Ken Griffin was the feature of the story, taking a massive hit on the sale of one of his most valuable properties. Rampant crime, high taxes, poor schools… all are pushing wealthy Chicagoans to leave, and that’s depressing property values.

But for all the attention the luxury market is getting, it’s the long-term weakness of Chicagoland’s overall home market that matters more. The same core problems that concern Chicago’s wealthiest impact everyday residents even more, and that’s hurting housing demand. Case-Shiller data shows that, despite recent strength, Chicagoland has suffered the 3rd-worst home value growth among the 20 cities in the index since 2000. Values are up just 108%, with only Detroit and Cleveland performing worse.

In contrast, cities like Los Angeles, San Diego and Miami have all seen their home values more than quadruple in value over the past 24 years.

Look at the Case-Schiller index over time and it’s even more obvious that Chicago home values dramatically lag behind most major cities over the long term.

A look at home values over a shorter period tells the same story. The median value of a home in Chicago has only grown 30% since 2010 – the lowest by far among the nation’s 15 biggest cities according to U.S. Census data (2010 is the earliest year available from the Census ACS). That’s not even enough to keep up with inflation, which was up 40% over the same period.

 

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Free at Last
1 year ago

Wow. That’s some great company. Detroit and Cleveland. No problem. Nobody in your hellhole city seems to care.

Doug MacGregor
1 year ago

How many of these sellers incurring huge losses and high end real estate brokers voted for Lightfoot, Foxx, Pritzker and Johnson? How many are members of the Chicago Club, Economics Club, Civic Federation and other so called leadership organizations? How many are lifelong democrats who vote for identity politics rather than sound policies that deliver fiscal and personal responsibility, public safety and accountability in public education? How many blindly donate to and vote for the same people, party and policies that have created this declining market? That $15.250M sale? The property taxes are over $333,000 a year! Will that buyer… Read more »

Pop
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug MacGregor

Talking about education, I am sure the rural south is incredible at it. Useless garbage Christian indoctrination with public tax dollars. GTFO with your stupid take on education. Agree with corrupt idiots running Chicago though.

outraged
1 year ago
Reply to  Pop

You obviously have no idea of the low level of education coming out of chiraq.

Doug MacGregor
1 year ago
Reply to  Pop

I’m not critiquing southern states education results. Why are you? I commented on the local issue of declining real estate values. When high taxes don’t deliver public safety, decent schools and other quality of life services, there’s a clear problem with the people in power. If you’re trying to defend or criticize the outcomes of Chicago public schools without acknowledging the communist CTU that runs the system, brah…you need to spend a little more time on this site.

Ataraxis
1 year ago
Reply to  Pop

Ex Chicagoan, now rural Southerner here. Our education system is much better than Chicago’s, there are no thugs shooting at our kids, we spend way less tax money and get better results, we graduate a fine bunch of kids here, and after they graduate, due to our booming economy across many high tech industries, these kids get well paying jobs. So yes, the rural South is as incredibly good at as many things as Chicago is incredibly bad at. Y’all please enjoy paying your high taxes to the corrupt idiots. Too bad those politicians did not get indoctrinated properly to… Read more »

Can never go back
1 year ago
Reply to  Pop

My late father lived in the Gold Coast. Founded a company with 77 offices around the globe. Was a member of the Chicago Club, Racquet Club, Chair of the Mid American Club when it was a viable club, and so on. He changed his voting patterns to Democrat figuring he had to go along to get along. I think he regretted doing that, but he was close with the Daley (junior) administration for whatever it’s worth. I did not have a relationship with him as he abandoned the family in the 70’s and my brother and I were on our… Read more »

Admin
1 year ago

Wow, thanks for sharing.

Can never go back
1 year ago
Reply to  Mark Glennon

Mark – his wife attended Marian Catholic- that was the school that mattered in terms of her future.

Admin
1 year ago

Ooh, this is like the 20 Questions game! You’ve provided a great history test for Wirepoints readers to determine the identity of your father and grandfather! I confess I do not know without a little digging. If we answer correctly will you give us the name? Or at least answer clues as in 20 Questions?

Last edited 1 year ago by Mark Glennon
Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Mark Glennon

My first question: Was International Harvester the company your grandfather was CEO of?

Can never go back
1 year ago
Reply to  Mark Glennon

No not IH. A utility. He was Illinois Man of the Year in 1971. You mention IH. My mother’s family were servants for the McCormicks in Lake Forest. The McCormicks built a house for my mother’s family in appreciation which stands today across from the Bears headquarters. My mother loved working class people as a result and she was not pretentious. She was one herself. I do thank the McCormicks because that gift enabled me to go to great schools and lead a lucky life. By the way I was close to guys from the Southland. Bloom won the state… Read more »

Admin
1 year ago

Damn. With all those hints I should have it, but I don’t.

debtsor
1 year ago

I disagree that high housing prices are a measure of success. It’s a good thing that Chicago’s housing prices remaining *relatively* affordable compared to other cities. But of course, there are awful reasons *why* Chicago’s growth is so anemic. Because high housing prices are a scourge on the economy. We are living in the super-bubble of all bubbles where the flow of the river of money washes over every tangible asset and artificially props up its value. This super bubble prevents new families and young people from buying homes and having children. The economy is some ways is just smoke… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by debtsor
Kevin M
1 year ago
Reply to  debtsor

I’ve wondered for years who in Chicago elects these feckless crooks with their bad policies. Guess I found one.

outraged
1 year ago
Reply to  debtsor

Sorry but 400K for a 1500 SF house is no bargain anywhere.

Honest Jerk
1 year ago

So, putting it another way, living in Chicago instead of some other U.S. cities cost many Chicagoans several hundred thousand dollars in net worth. Sounds about right.

debtsor
1 year ago
Reply to  Honest Jerk

That several hundred thousand dollars in net worth is predicated almost entirely on the ability of a Millennial or Zoomer to obtain a mortgage to purchase your home. When your net worth in some hot appreciating city is dependent on the finances of a debt-saddled generation, maybe it’s not such a good idea. I’ll have an easier time selling my house when i need to sell it in the future than the overpriced seller in some other state who overpaid himself. I lived through the 2007-2009 crash, and the five years of flat/declining prices afterwards.

outraged
1 year ago
Reply to  debtsor

I feel like prices never really retreated to where they should have after 08′. What in the world changed? I believe the answer to that is the value of the the dollar. If you look at a US home value chart over the last 100 years there is a nice steady conservative increase up to about 2000′, then everything is up and down like a yoyo from that point. It is all wall street driven from there on.

Freddy
1 year ago

Here’s an article from Crain’s about the potential property tax bill Pritzker will get on in Chicago.
https://www.chicagobusiness.com/residential-real-estate/pritzkers-top-list-biggest-residential-property-tax-payers?utm-content=article1-headline

Pat S.
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddy

Time to take out the toilets!

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