Nearly 40 percent of all Illinois COVID deaths in the last month are breakthroughs. What gives? – Wirepoints Quickpoint

By: Ted Dabrowski and John Klingner

Square this one up for us, Gov. Pritzker. On January 3rd, you said that only 5 percent of COVID patients in Illinois’ ICUs were vaxxed.* The implication was that Illinois is suffering from a “pandemic of the unvaccinated.”

But since your comment, nearly 40 percent of all COVID deaths have been breakthroughs.  Illinois has experienced 1,007 breakthrough deaths over the last four weeks.

That’s a massive disconnect. How can the vaxxed make up so few of the ICU patients – those most at risk of dying – and yet end up comprising so many of the total COVID deaths? 

Wirepoints can think of a couple scenarios that explain that disconnect, but we’re simply not armed with the data that would allow us to confirm them. IDPH doesn’t provide the hospitalization data we need, let alone more detailed data on breakthrough demographics and comorbidities.  

Which brings us to the actual point of this piece: The governor shouldn’t make comments that can’t be confirmed by publicly released data from the Illinois Department of Public Health.

This is far from the first time this has happened. Gov. Pritzker and Dr. Ezike have made statements throughout the pandemic that couldn’t be independently verified.

And that erodes trust, if there’s any left.

*Approximately 85% of those hospitalized because of COVID-19 are unvaccinated, while 95% of the approximately 1,100 people in intensive care are unvaccinated, Pritzker said.

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Barb
2 years ago

All I have to say is “Follow the money”

Stinky Sphincter
2 years ago

I know of at least 12 people who are/where all double or triple vaxxed and came down with Covid. I’m not, still a pure blood and havent had any issues. Mask on pretty much never and we, mrs, regularly go out and mingle with both the clean and unclean. Have we dodged the Covid bullet? So far, so good but who knows. Right now the vaxxed people we know are having lots more issues and adhere to the always wear a mask, wear rubber gloves, dont visit crowded stores etc and that doesnt seem to help one bit.

Last edited 2 years ago by Stinky Sphincter
Moonmac
2 years ago

Dying from the jab not Covid

Jesse R.
2 years ago

Does the Pritzker family still own Covid testing companies?

Susan
2 years ago
Reply to  Jesse R.

It was reported in 2020 that Pritzker family venture capital group had investments in Cue Health and Pathgroup. Unknown whether still invested.

Cue health sell at home test kits costing $249 for reader and $224 for 3 tests.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/which-at-home-covid-test-is-best-for-you-pcr-like-gadgets-vs-rapid-antigen-kits-11643292002

Pathgroup is described as “one of the largest providers of anatomic pathology, digital pathology, clinical and molecular laboratory services in the United States”

https://apnews.com/press-release/business-wire/business-united-states-f52e5efcf8fa42f49b9653ab6cae3823

Rick
2 years ago

The pandemic is over. It is now time for the people who are freedom loving and brave and individualistic to go out and take back the lives we had. Start out by not wearing a mask, ever, don’t even put it in your pocket. Learn how to friendly respond to mask nazis. This is step 1, the masks. When governments get authority and submission, they never give you back your freedom, it has to be taken back.

Disgusted Citizen
2 years ago

This is a lie. You are counted as unvaxxed if you only have one shot, or are under 14 days with your second shot. If they actually admit 40% are breakthrus, meaning people who are double-vaxxed with second dose after 14 days, then you KNOW the real number of breakthrus is huge.

The numbers not adding up are all a part of the game. They want to keep us spinning so we never figure out what’s going on.

Thee Jabroni
2 years ago

I know whats going on,the vax doesnt do crap!-doesnt keep u from getting covid,doesnt keep u from spreading covid-one huge lie!-vax,vax,vax,so the politicians stocks in big pharma go up,WAKE UP PEOPLE,CAN YOU NOT SEE WHATS GOING ON!!??

debtsor
2 years ago

A good friend of mine, all triple boostered, vaxxed, rarely leave the house, still quarantine their mail and groceries, they all just caught omicron, and have had mild cases all week. Their teenage son caught it from friends and brought it home. My neighbor just had her breakthrough case. Breakthrough is just another way of saying vaccine failure. Most caes these days are breakthrough. I don’t think the vaccine has stopped the transmission of a single corona case.

KSman
2 years ago

In Kansas, hospitals are listing anyone “not boosted” as unvaccinated. That means if you got the shot and the second shot…but not the booster and end up in the hospital, they list you as “un-vaccinated”

John
2 years ago

Can you link to the data source?

Anonymous
2 years ago
Reply to  John

Ted Dabrowski and John Klingner shouldn’t make comments that can’t be confirmed by publicly released data from the Illinois Department of Public Health

Thee Jabroni
2 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

yea,ok dummy,we all trust the illinois department of health,get a freaking clue,wear your mask in your prius by yourself,jesus,people are stupid

Aaron
2 years ago
Reply to  Thee Jabroni

Brainwashed

Thee Jabroni
2 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

hi,im anonymous and i believe EVERYTHING the government says!-derrr

Chatty Cathy
2 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Is that you Pritzker? or is it his beyond overpaid “assistant”? The citizenry has a right to know what is going on, and organizations such as Wirepoints and some media are attempting to help us in that respect. Unfortunately, we are all being kept in the dark as his highness tries to keep us hostage with executive orders. smh

Amit
2 years ago
Reply to  John

https://dph.illinois.gov/covid19/vaccine/vaccine-breakthrough.html

You will need to pull out the death numbers from this data.

Anonymous
2 years ago
Reply to  Amit

From this link

Deaths
2,528
0.032% of Fully Vaccinated Population

The problem of Ted Dabrowski and John Klingner is only text comprehension.

ProzacPlease
2 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Dr Ezeike, you should come up with a better screen name. Or is that you, Dr Arwady?

Chatty Cathy
2 years ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

LOL

Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Anonymous math whiz, you are looking at the numbers for all deaths since the start, which is meaningless because everybody was unvaccinated for a long period of time and the vax is more effective early after being administered. You fell for the exactly the trick that IDPH is trying to pull by putting by making those aggregate, from-the-start numbers conspicuous. What is relevant is the current run rate, which is why Ted and John used this month’s numbers, which is clear from the chart. And, by the way, people with “only text comprehension” don’t have MBA’s from Wharton, as Ted… Read more »

Last edited 2 years ago by Mark Glennon
Anonymous
2 years ago
Reply to  Mark Glennon

Their problem is only text comprehension means that they lack text comprehension and not that they are people with text comprehension.
However, the last month data suggests that vaccines are not as good as they use to be.

Admin
2 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

“Their problem is only text comprehension means that they lack text comprehension and not that they are people with text comprehension.” Thanks for helping us comprehend that text, Anonymous.

Last edited 2 years ago by Mark Glennon
Aaron
2 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Anon,
twenty some years ago some moron put into text that the poles would melt and be ice free by 2020. They spewed lies to an entire generation or two of students. Melt and be ice free by 2020. . .comprehension does not make something true. Comprehension does not make something just happen. Anon, you can put into text that the moon is cheese and I can understand that but it’s still not true.

Freddy
2 years ago
Reply to  Mark Glennon

Mark-Everyone here is forgetting that the real cause of death is
The Grim Reaper! It is his full time job and everyone will be a customer sooner or later. No if’s ands or Botox.

Vision2
2 years ago

Election year for Pritzker. Scare tactics will continue until all the ballot drop boxes have been properly stuffed.

Captain Obvious
2 years ago

If you die within 14 days of taking any jab or booster, you death counts as unvaccinated. Can you see it now?

Freddy
2 years ago

Why? Easy. “On a Need To Know Basis” or
“The Minimum Necessary Standard”

Mark Felt
2 years ago

The COVID virus has mutated enough that the current vaccines have limited effectiveness, much like monoclonal antibody treatments which are no longer as effective as they once were. Politicians, doctors and scientists don’t want to admit after billions spent they are still behind the power curve on this virus. I bet years from now some numbers guy will figure out deaths would not have been much higher had we done nothing to fight this virus versus the billions spent and lives disrupted. In fact our asinine response to this virus may even have caused more deaths than the virus itself..

Disgusted Citizen
2 years ago
Reply to  Mark Felt

This has been established; the data exist if you know where to find it. Masks are a net negative (they spread disease), lockdowns are a net negative (respiratory viruses spread PRIMARILY in the home, economic consequences, increased suicidality), the vaccines are a net negative (data out of the UK show the vaccinated get omicron more easily than the unvaxxed, have worse outcomes) and the vaccines themselves are not without side effects (myo- and pericarditis, immune dysfunction, increase in cancer – 2021 saw a net increase in all cause, non-covid, mortality.) Perhaps we’ll know the truth, definitively and legally, one day… Read more »

Chatty Cathy
2 years ago

Not to mention the govt. is spending money promising testing and masks for all households. Hey, I thought this thing was winding down!! It’s just that “some” people don’t want it to ……..

Marie
2 years ago

The government is going to keep pushing the medical immunization crap that doesn’t work because they are on the hook for paying big Pharma a fortune for whatever it is they come up with whether it works or not. We are now a nation of guinea pigs. The government doesn’t care about us they just want to keep big Pharma happy. You have to fight for yourself and your children no one else is going to, they’ve made that very clear.

Unemployed observer
2 years ago

Because the Vaccines do not work.

Morefandave
2 years ago

Gov. Toilets will tell you: not enough vaxxing or masking. Get doublemasked, and boosted NOW!

susan
2 years ago

The most disturbing implications about the well-chosen graphic (road-sign: Vax to the left, unvax to the right) are that medical resources, paid for by taxpayers shunted to either side, are being restricted to those shunted to the left side. Medical txts, access to healthcare resources like MABs and novel pharma, workout gyms/chiro, transplants, and even certain ‘in-network’ providers are withheld from a class of Americans who are nevertheless required to fund the monopoly healthcare system from which they are provisionally excluded. Even more obscenely horrific is the vigorous prosecution of licensed medical professionals who would be glad to provide competent… Read more »

Disgusted Citizen
2 years ago
Reply to  susan

You-risk-it-you-pay-for-it will NEVER be fully implemented. It will always and only be a tool used by the corrupt to punish those they wish to punish. Look no further than 300 lb senators and congressmen.

susan
2 years ago

It is being implemented now, against those who do not bend the knee to vax diktats.
Unvaxed are denied treatment, and denied access to healthcare provisional activities for which they have paid via mandated ‘insurance’.

debtsor
2 years ago

“This is far from the first time this has happened. Gov. Pritzker and Dr. Ezike have made statements throughout the pandemic that couldn’t be independently verified.”

How do you know when a politician is lying? Because he’s talking…

Morefandave
2 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

Unfortunately that applies to unelected politicians like Ezike.

susan
2 years ago

“Conclusions:Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/ Ivermectin Prophylaxis Used for COVID-19: A Citywide, Prospective, Observational Study of 223,128 Subjects Using Propensity Score MatchingLucy Kerr, Flavio A. Cadegiani, Fernando Baldi, Raysildo B. Lobo, Washington Luiz O. Assagra, Fernando Carlos Proença, Pierre Kory, Jennifer A. Hibberd, Juan J. Chamie-Quintero Published: January 15, 2022 (see history) DOI: 10.7759/cureus.21272 Cite this article as: Kerr L, Cadegiani F A, Baldi F, et al. (January… Read more »

No I am the King
2 years ago
Reply to  susan

If anyone cares anymore – Ivermectin is a noble prize award winning med (for humans).

PC
2 years ago

A couple of further points: The analysis above is a best case scenario for the governor, because definitions matter. Based on comments at Senator Johnson’s Covid hearing, we now know that Epiq, the main hospital database provider, only has two categories of patients with Covid; “fully vaxxed” and “unknown.” The unknown category is clearly larger than “unvaxxed” given that it includes those who are not fully vaxxed, plus anyone else whose status couldn’t be determined. The source data assumes the Covid test is accurate AND that the hospitals record it correctly, given that it is clearly in their financial interest… Read more »

Pat S.
2 years ago
Reply to  PC

From the beginning my questions was why did the government offer incentives to hospitals identifying and treating COVID? Extra $$s for ventilators?

WTH?

Hunter's Lap Dance
2 years ago

Human biology is simply different in IL than anywhere else on the planet.

Debra Minogue
2 years ago

Thank you! I’ve been pointing out the discrepancy between breakthrough deaths and the claimed 99% of hospitalized being unvaccinated for over a month now. Unless the vaccinated and dying are staying away from the hospitals and expiring at home, the authorities and media are blatantly lying. It is clear that people would rather swallow whatever the media spoon feeds them than to take a few minutes to critically think about the actual data. Good gravy. We are doomed by a profound lack of of even the slightest bit of intellectual curiosity.

Pat S.
2 years ago
Reply to  Debra Minogue

Thank you, CPS and CTU – not too many critical thinkers in the bunch.

Ergo, their students, our citizens, will not be critical thinkers.

The inconsistencies have been blatant from the beginning – with misleading, and likely incorrect, data.

My question is … why did the federal government incentivize identifying COVID-related hospitalizations and deaths?

What is the end game? (Too scary to contemplate?)

Joey Zamboni
2 years ago
Reply to  Pat S.

First the government banned all elective procedures in hospitals…

This caused a massive shortfall in revenue…

Next they gave hospitals money for every *positive* case (more for ventilator cases) & for every death…

With the hospitals suffering from lost revenues, they eagerly played the covid reimbursement game to recoup there losses & then some…

Starting I believe Feb 2nd, hospitals will no longer be mandated to report covid deaths, does the mean the government cash also dries up…?

Disgusted Citizen
2 years ago
Reply to  Pat S.

The least conspiracy minded solution I can come up with is this is all to hide powerful people’s involvement in gain of function. Fauci, et. al., basically created Covid. The Chinese lab leaked it (on purpose or accidentally, it leaked) and they likely called up Fauci and said “If we so much as smell you near our lab we will share all of your emails” and the fix was in. In their efforts to hide the origin (and their culpability) they tried to divert attention while coming up with a vaccine – only, with their resources divided (vaccine and covering… Read more »

debtsor
2 years ago

The real life story of the covid-19 development, leak and cover-up is something straight out of a science fiction horror movie. You couldn’t make up characters as slimy and detestable as Fauci, Dzaick, Brix, etc. The story is so crazy it’s almost unbelievable – but there it is, on paper, in emails, in grant documents, and the bat lady pictures everywhere…even the chinese bat lady disappeared for a year, only to resurface on CCP state run media to scare the public into believing more variants are coming…

Morefandave
2 years ago
Reply to  Debra Minogue

Authorities lie? Here in the Land of Lincoln?? Unbelievable!

Debra Minogue
2 years ago
Reply to  Morefandave

Shocking, I know. And, yet, some people still seem quite eager to believe every syllable that springs from their lips.

Donna
2 years ago
Reply to  Debra Minogue

Well said!

Thee Jabroni
2 years ago

Anyone know where i can buy a Fauci poster to put on my wall next to my Farrah Fawcett poster?

Morefandave
2 years ago
Reply to  Thee Jabroni

Thanks! You just broke my barf-o-meter.with that question

NoHope4Illinois
2 years ago

Let’s look in the memory hole, may find something there to help explain. CDC recently fessed up that the deaths they had presented as being Covid were approximately 75% died with Covid, and 25% from Covid, and commorbids were significant. So the CDC inflated the lethality of Covid. The media has quietly ignored most of this.

Pritzker and the IDPH should clarify the facts, and if they can’t explain then why.

Last edited 2 years ago by NoHope4Illinois
debtsor
2 years ago

The better way to look at the deaths is years lost because of covid. Yes, the co-morbidies will ultimately kill the patitents, but co-morbities are often the reason patients have difficulties fighting off the coronavirus in the first place. That elderly fat person may have had a couple of decent years left but for catching corona. Yes, many people probably died with covid instead of from covid but that covid certainly knocked a few years off that patient’s life. Covid is a serious disease for a relatively small number of people. That small number of people also includes a lot… Read more »

NoHope4Illinois
2 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

Sadly, for many it’s a cult. Even after Fauci and the CDC admitted you need a N95 mask for any kind of real protection, the Covid Cultists cling to their cloth mask – it’s their talisman.

Rob M
2 years ago
Reply to  debtsor

Its really a class thing, but the elites on the right and left insist on making it a race argument to distract us. White people do not like being called racist, and those who scream the loudest likely are, and it’s a free country, you don’t have to love everyone. But class is another thing. Yes, mostly those who were sick already with something else, or very unhealthy in general have perished due to this virus, but it skews poor. Poor people have more comorbidities, and get less than stellar health care. As a student of history, I know the… Read more »

debtsor
2 years ago
Reply to  Rob M

I agree, it is Covid deaths are about class than race but the proletariat of the different color skin feel no solidarity amongst each other.

ger42
2 years ago

Unfortunately this governor and his policy is killing our residents. When does it stop? The lying must stop. He is no leader. He is a moron. Vote him out of office.

NoHope4Illinois
2 years ago
Reply to  ger42

I think there is at least a 50/ 50 chance Pritzker uses his ’emergency executive powers’ from this pandemic (even though in just the last few weeks it was said to be endemic ) to further influence the Nov election, particularly if the race appears tight.

Pat S.
2 years ago

You mean the long-awaited Prtizker: ‘I’ve beaten COVID and all mandates are off the table announcement’ coming just in time for the election? You mean that announcement?

Thee Jabroni
2 years ago
Reply to  Pat S.

yea,itll be truly amazing how the reported covid cases will dramatically drop as the mid terms draw near-“ALL HAIL KING PRITZKER,HE SAVED US FROM COVID”!!!

Morefandave
2 years ago

Tight, like his pants?

Joey Zamboni
2 years ago
Reply to  Morefandave

JB looks like he was poured into his suit, & forgot to say when to stop…

debtsor
2 years ago

Extraordinary times require extraordinary measures. He’ll announce two days before the election that unvaxxed cannot vote in person on election day because it’s just too dangerous. Of course, the courts will overturn that executive order within 24 hours but the damage will be done, and will effect the outcome of the election in JB’s favor. His base will be like YES YES YES DO IT DO IT!!!! There is literally no political price for this especially if other blue state politicians all do it. What remedy is there for something like this? Have another election? It’s scary what these people… Read more »

Marie
2 years ago

Whatever he does take the opportunity in the November 22 election to VOTE NO on AMENDMENT 1. It will be the final nail in the coffin if it passes. Illinois is on life support now IT WILL BE DEAD IF AMENDMENT 1 passes.

Marie
2 years ago
Reply to  ger42

He is ethnic cleansing. He wants us out. He’s only interested in the indoctrinated school children from kindergarten all the way through college. They will understand what he says and do what he tells them. That’s what he wants. We fight him so we have to go.

Ex Illini
2 years ago

It’s called “lying with numbers”, and politicians have been using it for years. Quote some lame brained invalid study, speak authoritatively and pound the podium and the people all nod their heads.

NoHope4Illinois
2 years ago
Reply to  Ex Illini

That’s exactly what Fauci and Birx did with the fake Imperial College study, and shut the whole country down. No one pushed back because they were the ‘experts’.

Last edited 2 years ago by NoHope4Illinois
Thee Jabroni
2 years ago

just remember,if you attack Fauci,youre attacking ” science”

NoHope4Illinois
2 years ago
Reply to  Thee Jabroni

Lately it appears that pushing back on Fauci is more akin to going after a criminal.

Morefandave
2 years ago
Reply to  Thee Jabroni

Fauci has done more to discredit real science than anyone in history. The word “science” is now a joke.

Joey Zamboni
2 years ago
Reply to  Thee Jabroni

Now there’s a guy JB would be correct in calling a S.O.B.

Marie
2 years ago
Reply to  Thee Jabroni

Maybe you’re attacking the type of science they teach today but you’re not attacking the type of science I learned in school. I was actually taught I was not indoctrinated.

Thee Jabroni
2 years ago
Reply to  Marie

I was being sarcastic Marie

Marie
2 years ago
Reply to  Ex Illini

That’s a great comment. And Nobody Does it Better Than Illinois. You can’t get elected unless you agree to lie about numbers in Illinois. Good observation

Waggs
2 years ago

Vax, mask, boost. Vax, mask, boost. Vax, mask, boost. Come on now! If we all chant it together loud enough, maybe it will finally work!

KJ
2 years ago

It’s nearly 40% are reported vaccinated. The remaining 60%+ contains unreported status.

Chatty Cathy
2 years ago

From early on, I figured that the estimates, figures, and stats (especially those in blue jurisdictions) have absolutely no validity as they were/are not based on truth. Why even the wacky guy in the UK who did the original “forecasting/modeling” for this thing in what seems like a lifetime ago, was off by so much that he should’ve been thrown out on his ear. (He’s the one that carried on his affair with his married mistress, going out —– even tho his country was on strict lockdown.) His was one of the first pieces of information that enabled the world… Read more »

HeywoodJaBlome
2 years ago

None of those vaccinated people died from Covid, they died from the most recent pandemic virus strain the Breakthrough. It is believed that the Breakthrough virus is more contagious and dangerous than Covid. Scientist are working fervourously to find another vaccine to combat the extremely dangerous Breakthrough variant. Trust the science!

Marie
2 years ago
Reply to  HeywoodJaBlome

Does anyone ever look at the obituaries? In December and January a lot of people in their 70s 80s and 90s pass away. It happens every year. Their compromised systems can’t handle the flu or the cold weather and pneumonia. They pick up other illnesses in the hospital or nursing homes. Check it out it happens every year. THOSE ARE NOT COVID DEATHS.

Thee Jabroni
2 years ago

“Erodes” trust?-ha,I dont trust ANYTHING politicians say or do,cant ” erode” trust when theres ZERO trust to begin with-theyre all a bunch of phony baloney lieing hacks

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