This way of thinking treats documentation as if it determines who is worthy of care and who is not. It ignores the simple truth that children are still children no matter what papers they have or do not have. Using Social Security numbers as a moral test creates a divide that has nothing to do with health or public good. Illinois already recognizes that reality by allowing noncitizen children without SSNs to receive medical support. That is a public health decision rooted in long term stability and basic humanity. Arguments about tax burdens pull attention away from the actual sources… Read more »
The problem isn’t having a SS# or whether anyone here believes that children shouldn’t have their own access to healthcare or that people should be able to see a doctor. Making this a judgement whether a kid should be able to see a doctor is not the issue. They should and so should their families. The view points here is not compassionless for human beings who need help, but more a commentary on reality. The issue is who pays for it and who’s responsibility is it? Many countries around the world require immigrants, when filing for citizenship or a visa… Read more »
Last edited 5 months ago by daskoterzar
Fed up neighbor
5 months ago
My thinking it’s time for the DOJ to assign a special team to the state of Illinois, take it from there folks what will be found and how many will be prosecuted.
It is easy to call for investigations when the conversation is uncomfortable, but caring for children is not a crime and it is not evidence of wrongdoing. Illinois is following its own policies and public health guidelines. Hospitals and agencies are not secretly breaking laws by treating kids who need medical care. They are doing what any stable society does. If the concern is fiscal responsibility then the conversation should be about the people and institutions with real financial power who legally avoid contributing their share. Shifting the focus to children and families without full documentation is a distraction that… Read more »
“There is nothing to prosecute in making sure a child can see a doctor. If anything deserves more attention it is how we make sure our systems work well for everyone who lives here, because our health outcomes rise or fall together.” While I agree there is nothing to prosecute, the idea that we need to pay so that our “system works well for everyone” is completely misleading. If we deport all the illegal immigrants then we won’t have to pay for their health care. Illinois could work with the feds to remove these people from our country. If someone… Read more »
Irish Patriot
5 months ago
And how many hundreds of thousands more using fake SSN’s?
Hello, Indiana!
5 months ago
Another IL agency that needs a big dose of transparency and an unbiased audit.
A largely unasked question is becoming glaring: Is Illinois doing all it should to use artificial intelligence to make government cost less and work better? So far, the evidence says no.
This way of thinking treats documentation as if it determines who is worthy of care and who is not. It ignores the simple truth that children are still children no matter what papers they have or do not have. Using Social Security numbers as a moral test creates a divide that has nothing to do with health or public good. Illinois already recognizes that reality by allowing noncitizen children without SSNs to receive medical support. That is a public health decision rooted in long term stability and basic humanity. Arguments about tax burdens pull attention away from the actual sources… Read more »
The problem isn’t having a SS# or whether anyone here believes that children shouldn’t have their own access to healthcare or that people should be able to see a doctor. Making this a judgement whether a kid should be able to see a doctor is not the issue. They should and so should their families. The view points here is not compassionless for human beings who need help, but more a commentary on reality. The issue is who pays for it and who’s responsibility is it? Many countries around the world require immigrants, when filing for citizenship or a visa… Read more »
My thinking it’s time for the DOJ to assign a special team to the state of Illinois, take it from there folks what will be found and how many will be prosecuted.
It is easy to call for investigations when the conversation is uncomfortable, but caring for children is not a crime and it is not evidence of wrongdoing. Illinois is following its own policies and public health guidelines. Hospitals and agencies are not secretly breaking laws by treating kids who need medical care. They are doing what any stable society does. If the concern is fiscal responsibility then the conversation should be about the people and institutions with real financial power who legally avoid contributing their share. Shifting the focus to children and families without full documentation is a distraction that… Read more »
“There is nothing to prosecute in making sure a child can see a doctor. If anything deserves more attention it is how we make sure our systems work well for everyone who lives here, because our health outcomes rise or fall together.” While I agree there is nothing to prosecute, the idea that we need to pay so that our “system works well for everyone” is completely misleading. If we deport all the illegal immigrants then we won’t have to pay for their health care. Illinois could work with the feds to remove these people from our country. If someone… Read more »
And how many hundreds of thousands more using fake SSN’s?
Another IL agency that needs a big dose of transparency and an unbiased audit.