Many education officials receiving millions during retirement…we’re throwing money at an education problem that won’t be solved – Wirepoints on AM 560 Chicago’s Morning Answer

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Old Joe
1 year ago

Nice work if you can get it…….

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  Old Joe

Plenty of jobs in education for those who don’t mind a tough job. No pensions for armchair quarterbacks. What’s stopping you or anyone else for that matter? Afraid of a little hard work. No OnE wAnTs To WoRk AnYmOrE!

Willowglen
1 year ago

My friend’s son is an excellent teacher in the Glenbrook school district.

He is a Tier 2 recipient.

I wouldn’t extol the economic benefits of his job, but you are smarter PPF than everyone else.

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  Willowglen

Are you trying to tell us that the economic benefits of working as a teacher isn’t as great as others imply? I’m shocked.

Willowglen
1 year ago

No – the point is the Tier 1 Mandarin class makes it difficult to attract talented teachers.

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  Willowglen

So we can’t attract talented teachers because existing teachers that were offered a tier 1 pension expect to receive them? Do talented teachers only want to join the profession if their predecessors are cheated out of their contractual retirement? You’re making zero sense. Here is the real point. Old Joe is retired. He could have easily joined the ranks of teaching instead of working as an engineer. Now he sits around and complains that teaching is “nice work if you can get it”. My point is that he (and anyone else) could have become teachers but instead made a different… Read more »

debtsor
1 year ago
Reply to  Willowglen

It’s more than just Tier I, it’s the profession’s gate keeping that pushes conservatives away which is half the population. Conservatives have zero interest in sitting through four years of madrassas-like ‘inclusion’ and ‘diversity’ classes, only to find it nearly impossible to get hired as a teacher for being a ‘white man’ or asian man in the wrong profession. And if you were hired, you’d have no friends because nobody wants to be seen befriending the conservative white or asian male teacher. And being totally honest, a good part of the reason why schools are failing is because smart people… Read more »

Ned
1 year ago

Hello Illinois tax paying serfs. My in-laws are retired Illinois educators. They have been collecting huge pensions for nearly 30 years. They receive a 3% annual compounded increase on said pensions. Because of the compounding annual increases their pension doubled after 23 years. We are talking hundreds of thousands that they receive annually. They left the state of Illinois for lower real estate taxes and better weather years ago.

“Oh ye suckers”

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  Ned

A couple of 150k pensions each and you have a nice base to work with. I hope they also saved additional money so they can truly enjoy their golden years. 300k combined income is nice but also helps to have additional spending money in an IRA. I also hope their house is paid off and they are debt free. Inflation has been rough the last few years and travel and fine dining isn’t cheap.

ProzacPlease
1 year ago

Well, you really pulled back the curtain and gave us a full view this time. Congratulations-best one ever.

ProzacPlease
1 year ago

If every voter in the state read the story and this comment, you would be hearing the final notes of your “it’s what the voters want” tune.

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

I’m encouraging people to save outside of their pension. If each person saves up 2 million in an IRA, this couple could also have an additional 200k per year at a 5 percent draw down. Saving 9k per year starting at the age of 22 will get you around 2 million at age 55 if you invested in the S&P 500. Sure that draw down might be aggressive but it works with the pension leg of the stool. Now they have 500k per year with no debt and they can finance a half way decent retirement. Otherwise you’ll end up… Read more »

ProzacPlease
1 year ago

Another comment to add to the trove of what the ordinary voter should hear. 500k per year to finance a halfway decent retirement. I’m sure most voters would agree that they would rather enjoy the fruits of their labor, not pay so public employees don’t have to struggle with less than 500k annual retirement.

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

Ordinary voters should hear about investing at a young age and the value of compounded growth. Nothing stopping you or anyone else from achieving said retirement. You just need to dedicate yourself to a career, invest consistently and not waste your time being jealous of those that have invested and saved for retirement. Otherwise, it’s Fox News and complaining about Bidenflation and immigrants and “hoping” that the other guy elected will bring you prosperity. A truly sad retirement indeed. It’s also nice that Illinois doesn’t tax retirement income. Otherwise that would cost a couple around 25k per year just in… Read more »

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ProzacPlease
1 year ago

Keep digging.

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

I hope every voter hears it. Voters should look in the mirror and hold themselves accountable for their career choices, their investments and their debt load. There is no use in jealousy towards those that saved and planned for retirement.

Starting early is the key. Otherwise, “keep digging” towards your miserable retirement.

debtsor
1 year ago

I’ve looked the mirror every day of my life in the 88 years I’ve been on this planet, and not once have I ever held myself responsible for the poor spending habits of Democrats.

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  debtsor

So you used to be a gen-x man with a school aged child that you would disown if they were gay but now you’re an 88 year old Wisconsin lake living lady. lol

You keep transitioning.

debtsor
1 year ago

The secret is: (I don’t really even live in IL)

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  debtsor

So your “secret” is to consistently lie. I knew that from your prior comments but thanks for clarifying for the other readers.

debtsor
1 year ago

LOL

ProzacPlease
1 year ago

Do you mean the masses of people the school system kept shuffling through, year after year, until they finally graduated unable to read anything more complex than a 3rd grade primer? The ones with even worse math skills? Those voters?

Sure, go tell them to look in the mirror and blame themselves for not having accumulated $2 mil for retirement. I’m sure they will thank you for your profound insights and beg to be allowed to donate most of their earnings to make sure you can enjoy the fruits of your labor.

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

You don’t need to read above third grade level to understand that you need to save early and consistently. You don’t need to understand calculus to learn that you should spend less than you make.

Perhaps they could take the advice of all the old people telling these kids to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, stop eating avocado toast and quit buying the latest cell phone. lol

Leaving Soon, just not soon enough
1 year ago

Tomahawk steaks tonight for Sally.
Ramen Noodles for the taxpayers.
Sounds fair to me.

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago

It is fair. He earned his money and deserves to spend it as he sees fit. If others only saved enough for Ramen then that’s what they deserve as well. Your decisions have consequences. Conservatives used to understand this concept.

Being Had
1 year ago
Reply to  Ned

Your in-laws are better-off paying less taxes than they would in Illinois.  As a stand-a-lone, the growth of their pension income is nothing to write about.

Ned
1 year ago
Reply to  Being Had

I would take 3% compounded increases in perpetuity with no market risk anytime. Private pensions if you can still find one are almost exclusively defined income with no increases. Govt pensions need to reflect the private employment
landscape. The taxpayers are being grifted by the system.

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  Ned

I would take 3% compounded increases in perpetuity with no market risk anytime.”

Well, then apply to be a teacher so you can have one of those pensions. Although, you probably don’t want to work their low salary schedule. Every job has some good and bad I guess.

James
1 year ago
Reply to  Ned

Or, turning around your level of disgust maybe private pensions ought to require some kind of yearly COL in a manner roughly like that of IL public employee pensions. Why does a CEO get to make HUMONGOUS income at the expense of his workers anyway? Is there any moral equity there?

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Mark Glennon on AM560’s Morning Answer: Chicago pension buyout plan mostly shifts debt rather than eliminating it, property tax surge doubles inflation over three decades

Chicago’s political leadership is floating a pension buyout program as evidence it is seriously addressing the city’s thirty-six-billion-dollar unfunded pension liability, but Mark Glennon, founder of the Illinois policy research organization Wirepoints, said that the proposal moves debt from one column to another rather than reducing it, and that the broader fiscal picture facing the city continues to deteriorate across every measurable dimension. Audio here.

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