Wirepoints joined Americans for Prosperity and the Illinois Policy Institute for a roundtable discussion on the proposed tier 2 pension sweetener legislation.
Read more about the Tier 2 pension issue from Wirepoints:
- Do Illinois and Chicago really need to sweeten Tier 2 pension benefits? – Wirepoints in the Chicago Tribune
- Illinois lawmakers shouldn’t burden taxpayers with Tier 2 pension “fixes” until they know what they’re doing
- Illinois taxpayers deserve answers before state pension costs rise – Wirepoints in the Chicago Sun-Times
Audio and summary 
If this bill passes, say goodbye to local control over all Illinois parks and expect to see open drug and alcohol use, needles, no sanitation and fire hazards, but no ordinary park users.
Expect no retraction or apology. This what they do.
Look for machine to pass Tier 2 fix “shell bill” next week, then they’ll wait for giant fed +$40g SALT cap lift as political cover to go for graduated income/ millionaires tax to fund Tier 2 fix in about two second flat……of course they’ll try and pass graduated income tax with no caps, just like last time, so eventually it will hit dopey chumbalone class…..expect, as usual, dopey chumbalones to be comatose or dazzled by all the anti DT rhetoric (for those that sip that flavor of cool-aid).
will bankrupt blue state dems (Ill, Calf, NY, etc) turn +$40g SALT cap lift into giant excuse to raise taxes for giant gift to their public sector union base, and ZERO tax relief for the “working class”? Answer-YES, in about two seconds flat!!!
Yes, I think the next round of commercials and other info supporting a graduated state income tax will be even more misleading than the initial round. And we all know how very many gullible IL voters (chumbolones) exist.
And of course the public union cheerleaders will be out in force.
Stop with the “ public servants” BS. They are all organized thieves.
Why would IMRF increase tier2 benefits since IMRF covered employees also pay into & receive SS?
Public sector workers are laughing all the way to the bank.
LOL
Here is the sovereign citizen you were looking for yesterday.
https://x.com/IanJaeger29/status/1925341878611759488
Sovereign – one that exercises supreme authority within a limited sphere. Merriam Webster Dictionary
I wasn’t looking for it Frank. You spew your pseudolaw garbage about property taxes not being constitutional. It’s the same crazy logic that the sovereign citizens.use to try and get out of paying taxes. You clearly went down a wormhole of garbage on the internet and feel the need to share it here for some reason.
The governor of Florida is telling you direct taxation is unconstitutional, and you still refuse to hear it. Mental.
Since you can no longer provide a valid counter argument about the Constitution and the law in general, all you have left are desperate ad hominem attacks. Most people would have just taken their ball and gone home by now. Go home spooky.
One can hear the sound of Depends undergarments being wet with joy by pensioners that took their boodle and beat it to TN, TX, FL etc.
Those states would make sense for a pensioner to retire if they were to leave Illinois. Their pensions aren’t taxed in Illinois so imagine a husband and wife that maxed out their pensions and moved to say South Carolina? They would end up paying over 15k a year in income taxes when it’s zero in Illinois. If you are going to flee Illinois, you might as well go to another income tax favorable state.
The property taxes are radically lower than in Illinois, so one has to examine overall tax burdens when making a decision. You know this already though.
please keep up with the fight to bring a end to all these tax raises!!!!!! Thank you Ted!!!
Revamped pension system. Can only collect 1 pension- highest pension earned. Cannot collect pension if recipient still working for state in any manor.
So instead of paying 2 pensions to 1 person the state will pay 1 pensions to 2 people. That may make people feel better but won’t save a dime. Oh, and now you get to cover health care for two people instead of 1. lol
As a school superintendent, one can stack multiples pensions from separate jurisdictions. This is how these retirees end up receiving massive six figure pensions after retirement.
That which cannot continue will not continue.
You completely missed the point. If you didn’t “stack” those pensions, that school district would have hired a different person that would have also earned a pension. The only difference is you would need to pay for retiree healthcare for two.
Agreed. Taxes will eventually be raised as they can’t continue at the current low rate.
Great job WP, IPI & AFP!!! Is the estimated $76 bil Tier 2 “fix”, Bryce quotes, only to cover “fix” for three Tier 2 state pensions to date only, from 2011 to 2025?
And thanks Ted for once again pointing out the intellectual hypocrisy of the Illinois machine, that as a Illinois public sector person you can enjoy a guaranteed risk free upper-income lifestyle at the expense of the rest of Illinoisans who have no guarantees AND STILL CLAIM TO BE A PROGRESSIVE FIGHTING FOR THE “WORKING CLASS”. With CTU/Brandon & Stacy being are lead examples in this scam…….Why is our press so vested in this narrative? Who is still their audience?