Illinois economy, jobs suffer under potential presidential candidate J.B. Pritzker – Wirepoints

By: Ted Dabrowski

With rumors heating up about Gov. J.B. Pritzker’s potential run for president and the federal governments’ recent release of GDP numbers for the first quarter of 2022, it’s a good moment to review the governor’s economic performance since he took office in 2019. Polls today consistently show economic issues as the biggest concern for Americans.

Illinois’ growth and jobs numbers aren’t pretty for Gov. Pritzker and they’re dwarfed by the much better numbers coming from Illinois’ neighboring states. 

Illinois’ real GDP (adjusted for inflation) has grown an anemic 0.5 percent over the three-year period the governor has held the economic reins, according to U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis data. 

Contrast that to Indiana’s GDP increase of 6.1 percent and Iowa’s 5.2 percent. Michigan, Kentucky and Missouri all experienced an increase of more than 3 percent.

Slower-growing Wisconsin managed to grow 1.6 percent – still three times more than Illinois’ 0.5 percent growth.

Overall, Illinois’ GDP growth ranks 41st nationally (50 = worst) during the governor’s three years in office.

The governor can’t separate himself from those poor GDP numbers given the Covid policies he’s imposed on Illinoisans over the last two-plus years. His lockdowns and other mitigations have been among the most draconian in the country. A recent study published through the National Bureau of Economic Research gave Illinois an “F” for its handling of Covid – one of just five states to get an “F” – and found that the state’s policies did more economic harm than good.

In fact, Gov. Pritzker continues to declare Illinois and all its counties a “disaster area,” allowing him to maintain his executive order powers over masking, school and business closures, and vaccinations. None of Illinois’ neighboring states have any such disaster declaration or emergency rules. See our Instagram reel on Gov. Pritzker’s most recent disaster declaration.    

The impact of those policies can be seen in the collapse of the state’s GDP compared to Illinois’ neighboring states. The graphic below shows the cumulative growth for each state since Q1 2019, when Pritzker became governor. 

Illinois was the last to recover its economic losses from the pandemic and it has lagged its neighbors throughout. 

The failure to grow has negatively impacted Illinoisans’ overall wealth and welfare. The growth in economic output over the three years was the equivalent of just $300 per capita in Illinois. In Indiana, it was 10 times higher at $2,994 per capita. The full comparison of Illinois versus its neighbors is in the appendix.

And when it comes to jobs, Illinois’ unemployment number still lags far behind the rest of the nation. The state is tied with Pennsylvania for the nation’s 4th-worst unemployment rate.

Illinois’ unemployment rate is a full percentage point higher than the national average of 3.6 percent. It’s also more than double Indiana’s 2.2 percent rate. 

What if Illinois’ unemployment rate was the same low rate as Indiana’s? An additional 155,000 unemployed Illinoisans would have work today.

Pritzker’s poor economic record stands in sharp contradiction with the record he’s been pushing at the state and national level. In recent speeches, he’s been taking credit for what he claims are “balanced” state budgets, as well as Illinois’ first credit upgrades in two decades.

But those credit upgrades and “improved” finances have nothing to do with any fiscal or economic reforms implemented by the governor or the legislature. He’s passed no reforms of any consequence. In fact, most of the laws passed since Pritzker took office have increased the cost of government – we’ve documented much of that here and here.

The real difference in Illinois’ situation, which the governor fails to acknowledge, is the $186 billion in federal Covid aid that the private and public sectors in Illinois have received over the last two years. That influx of cash has pushed up the state’s tax receipts to record levels and that’s taken immediate pressure off of the state when it comes to repaying its bond holders. Illinois has gotten credit upgrades as a result, the first in more than 20 years. Just two years ago Illinois was just one notch away from a junk rating.

To buttress our point, it’s been a similar story in New Jersey and Connecticut, two of the nation’s other fiscal basket cases. There, floods of federal cash also bailed them out, resulting in the first credit upgrades in 20 years for both New Jersey and Connecticut.

An honest appraisal

If Gov. Pritzker would give an honest assessment of Illinois, he’d tell Americans that the massive inflow of COVID aid is only temporarily hiding the state’s major problems. That Illinois still has the country’s worst and biggest pension crisis. That it is one of the country’s three states with a shrinking population. That Illinoisans are punished by the country’s highest property taxes. And that Illinois is still only three notches away from a junk rating, the worst in the country.

And an honest assessment would tell Illinoisans that the state needs massive reforms to begin fixing the above. 

Unsurprisingly, we’re not going to get that kind of assessment from a politician more concerned with his presidential aspirations than with his record in Illinois. 

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Chatty Cathy
1 year ago

At the rate we’re headed, if our nation survives sleepy creepy joe and his cabal, this guy can campaign while spreading all of his fantasies about “how great things are” in Illinois, (similar to the beetlejuice with her entourage as she heads to Europe to proclaim the great things in Chicago). Pinch me, am I having a nightmare??!! What about facts and stats?? Many just want to be made to feel good, like a toddler comforted by his mom after he falls and skins his knee, and not be bothered by truth. Many will believe and choose him.

Tom
1 year ago

Jobs and the economy aren’t going to come back unless they start honoring the terms and conditions of employment contracts and adhere to the rule of law. The examples the democratic party have set are appalling and I don’t know how they can fix it or re-establish credibility without a paradigm political change. Why would anyone want to work here or transact after what they’ve done with COVID mandates? Personally, I lost a lot of money when a business transaction I was a party to was destroyed with illegal and onerous COVID requirements. My counterparty refused to stand up to… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by Tom
JackBolly
1 year ago

So comical Pritzker thinks he is a viable presidential candidate. Gov Slickback won’t let that happen.

Fed up neighbor
1 year ago

I sure wish Pritzker would stop his little game and just come out and say he’s running for President in 2024, oh he must ask his wife and kids because he played the same game when he was deciding to run for re-election in Illinois., Pritzker must think this is a popularity contest, Do me a favor and get the hell out of Illinois your path of democratic destruction must end.

Last edited 1 year ago by Fed up neighbor
Wilmette
1 year ago

I would like to see him go as well, however, he would probably just get replaced by someone equally as bad (or potentially worse). NY governor and NY major illustrates that scenario well.

nixit
1 year ago

JB said we needed the Fair Tax, then when the Fair Tax failed, JB promised “there will be cuts and they will be painful.” Despite its failure, there have been zero cuts and his administration keeps bragging about the state’s great financial situation. So which was it? JB’s administration can be summed up as passive movement. He is riding the momentum of the 5% flat tax re-enactment of 2017, a federal cash giveaway, and whatever blue winds are blowing his way. He can brag all he wants about new construction projects, but those are the direct results of doubling the… Read more »

Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz
1 year ago

Not saying that this article is entirely factually wrong, but why is it that it cites a SHRINKING POPULATION in the state when the updated census results have shown the opposite? More so, this information has been out since May and isn’t breaking news anymore. Did the author not do his research before publishing this story?

Indy
1 year ago

You seriously think Illinois population is growing? Lololol.
Heck Illinois population dropped by an extra 7 people in Highland a week ago.
Nevermind the record homicides in Chicago.

Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz
1 year ago
Reply to  Indy

I was referring to the report that stated a possibility of undercounting, and thus suggesting the state grew in population. Not sure why this is a “lololol” moment for you, maybe some further education can help you understand the world that we live in beyond your personal opinion

Bill also
1 year ago

Possibility of undercounting and you take that to mean we didn’t loose citizens.

Jakob Wolff
1 year ago
Reply to  Bill also

I think they were pointing out that the census could have statistical errors based on PES. Either way, they’re wrong regarding any “updated census” as there isn’t one

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago

Most readers of this website don’t believe that data as they prefer to discuss outmigration data. Got to give the readers what they want.

Brock Landers
1 year ago

Still biting the hand that feeds you? So ungrateful.

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  Brock Landers

Why would pensioners be grateful for the state merely paying its debt? Is your bank grateful when you make your mortgage payment? Such a strange thought process.

ProzacPlease
1 year ago

Lol you compare a mortgage payment to pension payments? Bad analogy, in the case of a mortgage there was actual value received. Student test scores show the lack of value received for pension payments.

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

What you perceive as value is irrelevant. Pensioners agreed to exchange their labor for pay and pension. They do not need to be grateful to receive what is theirs. It is their money not yours or any other taxpayer. They owe you nothing and the taxpayers owe them payment. Pretty simple. If you don’t pay your mortgage the bank will take it back from you. If you don’t pay your property taxes the state will take it from you. As long as you choose to live (or own property) in Illinois, you will be making these payments. No need for… Read more »

ProzacPlease
1 year ago

You are right, value never had anything to do with this. And that’s exactly what makes it nothing like a mortgage payment

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

Your perception of value has nothing to do with it. Your opinion means absolutely nothing. Pensioners don’t need to show gratitude to collect what is legally theirs. The pensioners show zero gratitude just as your bank does with your mortgage. Why? Because it’s their money not yours.

Pay your mortgage or lose your house. Pay your property taxes or lose your house. No need to display gratitude. The state owes the money and the taxpayers will provide the funds. Pretty simple.

Themis
1 year ago

“Pay your mortgage or lose your house. Pay your property taxes or lose your house.” You forgot the last clause: pay the pensions or….what, exactly? And therein lies the problem. Taxpayers choose to buy a house and how much of a loan to take out. No one chose these pensions. And before you say “we voted for people who did,” know that the unions have controlled who is elected in a majority of races for a long time, thus determining their own pensions.

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Ataraxis
1 year ago
Reply to  Themis

One day the state will cut back on pension payments and that will be it. Dems running the show will say sorry and move on. Remember, Dem power is all about the people currently in charge, they ultimately don’t care about pensioners or whatever the state constitution says. Their attitude is always “so sue me”, then they’ll drag the court case and any sale of state assets out to keep kicking the can down the road. They’ll also turn on the pensioners and call them greedy and uncaring for being unwilling to give up dollars to help the poor in… Read more »

debtsor
1 year ago
Reply to  Ataraxis

It’s not like the disgruntled pensioners, many of whom no longer live or vote in IL, can outvote the progressives in the primary, to retaliate against the Democrat party that screwed them over.

And it’s not like they’re going to vote Republican either, lulz!

It’s lose-lose for pensioners either way!

and PPF will be saying “but muh constitution, but muh pension clause amendment!”

Last edited 1 year ago by debtsor
Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  Ataraxis

One day the state will cut back on pension payments and that will be it.”

They tried that already and the courts told them no. What else you got?

Also, they don’t need to sell state assets. The revenue will come right off the top from the taxes collected. Before any money is spent elsewhere, pensioners will be at the front of the line. You know that $45-50 billion the state collects every year.

Ataraxis
1 year ago

PPF, you’re being logical and I respect that. And you have current law on your side. I truly hope that things turn out well for you. However, people in Chicago have just gotten a taste of what happens when city services disappear, and the rest of the state is watching. The level needed to gut the budget for pensioners alone will be so severe on a statewide level that it will never happen for a long period. The Democratic Socialists will turn on pensioners like the Bolsheviks went after the kulaks. Illinois pensioners will be the new kulaks. This is… Read more »

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  Ataraxis

“The level needed to gut the budget for pensioners alone will be so severe on a statewide level that it will never happen for a long period.” What do your numbers tell you? According to my back of the envelope math the state is currently spending about 10 billion per year to fund the pensions. Going off memory, I believe the state is spending around 16 billion in outflow towards pensions. If the pension funds were completely dry the state would need to come up with another 6 billion. It’s a lot of money but something that can easily be… Read more »

Ataraxis
1 year ago

The numbers tell me there’s no way that the Dems will raise the income tax to fund pensioners. I don’t wish you to be cheated, nor do I want a pound of flesh from anyone. I’m merely explaining that at some point Illinois will be unwilling to pay what they promised, so when the Dems feel cornered by the budget, they will demonize pensioners as rich fat cats. It will be very easy for them to pivot quickly and favor the poor as more deserving than pensioners. The current Dems socialists are not like the Dems who created the current… Read more »

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  Ataraxis

I agree with you that people won’t support increasing taxes to fund pensions. That’s not how it will go down. Pensioners and bondholders will take the tax revenue first. There won’t be enough left over for all the other services that people want. The tax increases will go towards those services and not the pensions.

The dems already tried to reduce pensions and the courts smacked them down. I imagine that you’re right and dems will try again. It will end in the same result. The ILSC has already stated that tax increases are not a reason for pension reduction.

debtsor
1 year ago

The ILSC has already stated that tax increases are not a reason for pension reduction.

Just wait until our current leadership brings up the ‘equity’ argument after discovering that y-t is grifting pension money from the poor BIPOC communities.

Unions have no where else to go. They’re never going to support Republicans. They’re forced to take whatever plate of BS their Democrat overlords give them. They don’t really have any choice. They’ll complain and whine but at the end of the day it’s all the same.

Last edited 1 year ago by debtsor
Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  debtsor

Until that day, 3% compounding for everyone. Maybe it will happen in 20 years. Of course by then that 120k a year pension will be paying out 216k per year. Hold on to your dream debtsor.

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago

My heart is broken. Do you typically resort to name calling when you’re unable to make a cogent argument? Then again, maybe you know that I’m right and it just makes you fed up?

It’s ok to be fed up. Just make sure you keep paying those taxes.

ProzacPlease
1 year ago

1.5 percentage points is a 30% tax increase. $45 – $ 50 billion per year, including massive COVID bailouts?

As always, the left will end up eating their own. They will not value the pensioners’ contribution to putting them in power.

Last edited 1 year ago by ProzacPlease
Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

Then you have nothing to worry about. The problem will take care of itself. Of course you don’t really believe that.

ProzacPlease
1 year ago

Au contraire, the banquet will cause a lot of problems for the entire state and country.

debtsor
1 year ago

They tried that already and the courts told them no.

Not this argument again…

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  debtsor

Bring up old arguments to steal from pensioners, get old answers.

debtsor
1 year ago

“I do believe that we have rightly believed but we certainly believed that certain issues are just settled. Certain issues are just settled… And that’s why I do believe that we are living in real unsettled times” -Kamala Harris

PENSIONS ARE SETTLED!!

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  debtsor

Pensions are explicitly outlined in the Illinois constitution.
Contracts are explicitly covered in both the US and Illinois constitution.

Where is the explicit right to an abortion in the Constitution? Oh that’s right, no where to be found.

But sure, some day maybe the court membership will drastically change and those new justices will see things your way. I’m sure they will be happy to eliminate their own pension in the process.

Keep on dreaming.

James
1 year ago
Reply to  Themis

And just how will the courts view your argument? That kind of problem exists all over this country. There is no end to its influence on government here, there and everywhere. If we ever get to the point of having governmentally paid election funding, then there’s some hope to change all that. Meantime various interest groups have some say in how the governent operates because they pay for it.

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  Themis

“know that the unions have controlled who is elected in a majority of races for a long time, thus determining their own pensions.” So a tiny percentage of the population controls the elections? Wow, that’s amazing. Maybe you should get organized and work to elect different candidates. As far as your “pay the pensions or what” comment, the courts have already shown they are willing to step in and force payment if necessary. Go back to the Rauner no budget years if you have any doubts. Without a budget the courts just took over and decided what had to be… Read more »

James
1 year ago

Oh, we don’t like to read the the truth of it. We much prefer our fantasies. That’s the reason for downvotes.

jajujon
1 year ago

Nothing against pension recipients. Promises were made and they should be kept. But if that obligation is so sacred, why is nothing being done to improve their severe underfunding? Why isn’t the long term financial health of the pension systems a top priority? Actually, we only hear about the severity from those who are concerned about it, and they aren’t on the left. They have no solutions. Keep underfunding them, year after year. It’ll be someone else’s problem one day. Yea, that’s a caring solution and that’s when pensioners will be really ungrateful.

James
1 year ago
Reply to  jajujon

There are a lot of state physical assets that can be sold when the … hits the fan on that topic. Think about underused real as well non-income producing and net-income losing real estate as prime examples.

ProzacPlease
1 year ago
Reply to  James

Yes, surely there will be a bidding war to acquire those physical assets in a state where the “… is hitting the fan”. What were you saying about preferring fantasies?

James
1 year ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

Apparently you haven’t a clue as to the present-day values of literally thousands of acres owned by the state or its lesser entities in IL. You don’t think developers would cough up BIG bucks if some of it were auctioned?

jajujon
1 year ago
Reply to  James

And just exactly how might the monetization of those assets solve the underfunded pension situation? It’s a massive problem which requires a massive solution. Think bigger than some vacant land parcels. Why not privatize the Springfield State Capitol complex of buildings, McCormick Place, the Chicago water and sewer infrastructure, O’Hare Airport, the state tollway system? Monetizing these big assets could make a difference, but without reform, you’re merely passing the pension obligation on to another. Sell O’Hare? Sales proceeds go to Chicago’s pensions, but now there are decades of lease payments covered by whom – travelers? airlines? all of the… Read more »

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  jajujon

“But if that obligation is so sacred, why is nothing being done to improve their severe underfunding?” Democrats don’t fund it properly because they don’t want to be honest about the true costs of pensions. They get to say the budget is balanced when we are really short 4-5 billion per year. Republicans don’t fund it because that would mean raising taxes which they don’t ever want to support. True budgets would require compromise and work. Much easier to complain than actually try and get something done. The voters don’t want to hear the truth that this debt needs to… Read more »

Brock Landers
1 year ago

Your analogy would be more accurate if you and your neighbors were responsible for paying back 80-90% of my mortgage. Cus I just couldn’t be bothered with paying more than a fraction of the obligation I created for you.

Regardless, yes, the bank would be grateful to have it’s debt repaid.

As it is, me and my neighbors are paying for your mortgage. Because you very likely still have a mortgage.

So again, just say thank you and move on.

Pensions Paid First
1 year ago
Reply to  Brock Landers

I would never say thank you to someone for paying me what is owed. When I pull money out of my fidelity account I don’t say thank you or feel grateful. I simply get my money. See that’s the concept you are struggling with. You are not paying for pensioners mortgage or retirement but rather for services that were provided. See it’s not your money. It’s a debt the state owes for services rendered. You will pay money to the state so they can meet their obligations. It’s not your money but rather a bill that you are required to… Read more »

nixit
1 year ago

When I hear young Progressives complain about austerity, I simply tell them that is the direct result of our gluttonous past. We consumed too much and didn’t pay enough. And when they complain there is no money today for the things they want, I tell them sorry, we must pay those pensions, it’s the law. And when they want to raise taxes, I ask them why they want to take money from everyone else’s retirements, including their own. It’s fun because you slowly start to see them realize it’s not public vs private or pension vs no-pension argument, it’s generation… Read more »

ProzacPlease
1 year ago

Great news for Illinois pensioners! Census review finds that the homeless population was undercounted by a couple hundred thousand!

ProzacPlease
1 year ago

Interesting take- since data has been out since May, it doesn’t matter any more.

Ataraxis
1 year ago
Reply to  ProzacPlease

That’s a typical lefty non-response when confronted with the truth.
“Oh that’s nothing but old news”.

Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz
1 year ago
Reply to  John Klingner

Thank you for the response. I read the article you posted and still have some questions. I’m not concerned about the congressional allocation from the census or subsequent politics but focused on the dataset and statistics. How do you have a tool such as the PES that’s used as a “quality measure” for census data but when it shows that there’s a possibility for undercounting (irregularity) then it somehow doesn’t matter anymore or is false? How do you simply trust a “Public Affairs Specialist” when they say it doesn’t affect the census data when it clearly shows a discrepancy? Seems… Read more »

debtsor
1 year ago

Dude, the document you linked to is called:

Census Coverage Estimates for People in the United States by State and
Census Operations

It is not the census which counted a loss of residents confirming virtually everyone’s expectations.

Last edited 1 year ago by debtsor
Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz
1 year ago
Reply to  debtsor

Huh? Did you even read beyond the title of the report? Do you even understand the report? Do you understand how the data in the report has led the authors to suggest an undercount in the state of Illinois for the census? As I mentioned previously, I don’t care about anyone’s personal opinion or politics, yours included. If you can READ and actually READ the report I’m more than happy to discuss the statistics and their implications.

Last edited 1 year ago by Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz
Freddy
1 year ago

Just a question. During a census are all those who are pregnant counted as two people or just one? Probably one since no birth certificate or S.S.# There is a long time from when the census starts and someone is pregnant and to when the census ends. So if a census taker gets info from a pregnant mother (one person) does the person come back later after she gives birth (now two or three)? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/this-is-how-many-babies-were-born-in-each-state-last-year/ar-BB1gnDWy This article says that approx 133,000 babies were born in 2020 in Illinois (census year). That’s a lot of new people probably not counted depending… Read more »

Last edited 1 year ago by Freddy
Honest Jerk
1 year ago

How do you pronounce Brzęczyszczykiewicz?

Freddy
1 year ago
Reply to  Honest Jerk

Mr. B

debtsor
1 year ago

2,000,000 illegal immigrants a year gotta settle somewhere!

FROM THE ARTICLE: “The updated census numbers did not come with demographic or geographic specificity, so it’s not certain who the new residents are or where they settled.”

jajujon
1 year ago

Updated census results? What have you been reading? It was a survey, not a census.

The larger point is this: Illinois is pedaling backwards. Our governor is doing his best to lie on state and national levels because he’s been a miserable steward. Yet he gets progressive plaudits and, thus, fantasizes about greater aspirations. I hope he does run for president so he’s fully exposed on a national stage and his political career comes to a screeching halt. Put him out of our misery.

Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz
1 year ago
Reply to  jajujon

I urge you to lookup what a census and survey are defined as. I don’t care for politics, who is governor etc. I was interested in the hard data and that’s it, not your simpleton opinion.

Admin
1 year ago

Grzegorz, that’s utter nonsense. There was no updated census — a census which is now over two years old.. The survey you are referring to only indicates that in aggregate over the ten years covered by the census, it may have been wrong in its his conclusion about the overall change from 2010 to April 2020. All available evidence respecting population changes in recent years says IL is shrinking. The most important numbers pertinent to the economic issues that are the subject of this column are the number of taxpayers and their migration, which come from the IRS and are… Read more »

Jakob Wolff
1 year ago
Reply to  Mark Glennon

I agree that gregorz was spewing nonsense, but he brings up a point that I see omitted. The PES serves as a statistical approach in determining census accuracy, with the one in question being 2020. There’s a reason why the IRS is not used to determine population numbers, yet you claim it’s somehow more precise because what, people are more trackable with tax data? Why do we even have a census bureau in the first place? Are we just going to cherry pick numbers from any gov agency and make a claim that it’s more precise than the other? You’ve… Read more »

Admin
1 year ago
Reply to  Jakob Wolff

Jakob, my point never that the number of taxpayers is an exact measure of population. My point was that if the focus is on economic impact, it’s taxpayers that count, and the IRS has that exact number. The number of taxpayers is not the same as population, however, and nobody said that it is. The trend in the number of taxpayers in recent years, however, is one indication of where population is going in those years. I suggest that you read that article I linked to more closely. Neither the decennial census nor the PES tell us anything about what… Read more »

Goodgulf Greyteeth
1 year ago

Illinois is a poster child for pretty much everything that liberal/progressives want – LGBTQRZX preference-n-favoritism; public employee union ascendancy; criminal coddling; a consumer crushing environmentalist power grid; robust public aid and a thriving taxpayer supported Medicaid Industrial Complex; more school districts than any other state in the country, all of them thoroughly woke; a culture of guvmn’t legislating on behalf of everyone of color being considered a victim of white racists. Those “accomplishments” can certainly be framed in such a way as to help Pritzker in a primary campaign, where being able to stroke a whole bunch of one-issue liberal/progressive… Read more »

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Terry sexton
1 year ago

Totally agree!

JackBolly
1 year ago

Illinois is the island of Dsyfuntion – even Democrats understand that.

Chatty Cathy
1 year ago

For those of us still here for whatever reason, your post is realistic and sobering. It’s too bad that we got stuck with someone like him; a greedy, incompetent narcissist that is all about me, me, me, who has a penchant for lieing about anything and everything. Forget about the citizenry, the state of the state, and other such incidentals. It’s all about him. Ughhhh!

ToughLove
1 year ago

Anything is possible if a brain-challenged person like Biden was elected, however I have to believe there will be at least one other Dem candidate that can destroy Pritzker in a debate. Personally, I think a relatively unknown name will end up being the Dem candidate, similar to a when Obama first took the national spotlight.

The Doctor
1 year ago
Reply to  ToughLove

Very true. The leading contenders are all majorly flawed. It will be someone from the minor leagues.

Chatty Cathy
1 year ago
Reply to  ToughLove

I was thinking it might be scary whit-less from Michigan. :/

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